Spit on that thang
Security by obscurity is not real.
Are any of us ever real?
How can our eyes be real if mirrors aren’t real?
Have you ever looked, like really looked at your hands?
They call them fingers, but I’ve never seen em fing.
Not on it’s own. But as part of a multi layered approach of does help.
As someone who has professionally done legal reverse engineering. No. No it isn’t.
The security you get through vetting your code is invaluable. Closing off things makes it more likely for things to not be caught by good actors, and thus not fixed and taken advantage of by bad actors.
And obscurity does nothing to stop bad actors, if there’s money to be had. It will temporarily stop script kiddies though. Until the exploit finds it’s easy into their suite of exploits that no one’s fixed yet.
It can also be said: security by obscurity is the best scenario for the NSA
Closed source is more secure because the viruses can’t see where to get in.
This is why I stick to TempleOS, the only biblically accurate OS. With the power of God and high octane schizophrenia, I’m completely safe.
The main reason why MacOS has less viruses is that it’s even more than that. Want to run programs not from the app store? Hope you like a convoluted set of settings you have to go through to install that in the first place.
The second main reason is the constant obsolescence of API.
convoluted set of settings
- Attempt to open the app
- Go to Privacy & Security Settings and give it permission
- Open the app
Note that this is only with unsigned apps. You can download other apps and run them just fine as long as they’re signed.
Much confuse. Such convolute. Wow.
- Convoluted enough to scare the average people off from installing apps outside from the app store.
- In theory, code signing is a positive thing, and probably should be part of Linux too. In practice, it becomes an expensive paywall, that often pushes developers to make web applications instead (browsers don’t have to check for code signage), both on Mac and Windows.
Joke’s on you: GNU/Linux isn’t Unix to begin with (that’s literally what GNU means: “GNU’s Not Unix”)!
Therefore, MacOS is “the best Unix” only because it managed to squeeze by the BSDs and some dead proprietary Unixes (“Unices?” “Unixen?”) – hardly an impressive feat.
BSDs aren’t even Unix AFAIK because they didn’t bother to pay for the official recognition, despite literally being derived from UNIX. MacOS is pretty much the only UNIX that the average user will actually directly interact with.
Although for both Linux and (especially) BSD, isn’t there a “Unix of Theseus” issue here, if you understand my meaning?
Maybe for BSD? They have a lot of the original code though, and BSD moves a lot slower than Linux. Modern BSDs have a lot more in common with original UNIX than macOS does, but macOS paid for the certification and the BSDs didn’t.
Linux never was UNIX though. It does loosely follow the UNIX philosophy though.
" Unic-i "
Unixi
Obscurity is not security. Obscurity is the fake sensation of privacy, you are on the hands of the creator.
and on the hands of the NSA
I’m late and this will get buried, but this really speaks to the difference between the open source / ESR / OSI ideology and the free software / RMS / GNU ideology.
Open source ideology says it is better because it produces better software. If MacOS X was closed source and better it serves as a repudiation of that ideology.
Free software ideology says it is better because denying users any of the four freedoms is an immoral act. If MacOS X was proprietary software and better, it would still be immoral to deny users their freedoms; the ideology is not impacted.
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Well, you see, I deserve free software for my hobbies, or even my business. You deserve to suck shit and die in a gutter. /s
I think it’s because somebody has to produce that media, and the one producing it gets to choose the license for it, and that license can make it free or non-free.
Now, for open source software, somehow, a lot of people came together and built software that was free. While for movies, shows, books, whatever, the same thing didn’t happen, or at least not to the same extent.
I’m all for FOSS gaming btw.
Someone make a virus for his mac
Now this is the kind of trolling I sincerely advocate.
Just how do we define our metric for best Unix? Cuz it certainly isn’t freedom if Apples winning any awards.
It’s definitely not comparing Server performance because OSX Server flopped in the early 2000’s.
Any judgment of “best” needs to specify “for what use case?”
I’m a MacOS daily driver, and I think it is the best for most of the use cases that matter to me.
But not all of them. And my use cases could easily change a little bit and make MacOS a miserable choice to stick with.
Everything is a trade-off.
Edit: And as for closed source security, I hope nobody seriously makes that argument anymore, do they?
To quote from a paper on the topic of OS security:
According to the paper [5], windows is the most user friendly and has more hardware compatibility. In terms of security, Linux is the most secure among all OS given that it is an open- source operating system which gives users the ability to customize and implement security patches. As for memory management, macOS is the better option due to its fully integrated virtual memory system which is often on and continuously provides addressable space up to 4 per process. The virtual memory system allocates extra space for swap files on the root file system as a program uses space.
All available OS offer some level of security features such as firewalls, antivirus software, and encryption [6]. macOS has a level of security due to its unique operating system designed specifically for Apple devices with no third-party developers involved. Linux, being open source, is often regarded as more secure than Windows, which is a target of many malware attacks [7].
windows is the most user friendly
This is entirely dependend on what you’re used to I think, because I used to think this too but now I can’t do anything with windows anymore.
I thought MacOS being the most user friendly was its only claim to fame.
Shoving basic settings under “accessibility” is not intuitive in the slightest.
A good gui first interface is probably their main metric.
Linux is great for tinkering. But if you don’t want to tinker just change some setting it’s pretty awful. Every DE and their associated settings programs leave a LOT to be desired. Windows at least has only one (maybe two thanks windows 8+) ways to do anything and it’s well documented.
Command line? Yeah Linux is great. But most people want to avoid that at all costs.
Sounds settings have at least 3 places where they can be set in Windows, and the places don’t necessarily implement all of the functionality of the others.
Windows settings are a mess.
Basically. Using windows after spending a decade plus with Gnome and macOS is cumbersome.
As for memory management, macOS is the better option due to its fully integrated virtual memory system which is often on and continuously provides addressable space up to 4 per process.
Wow, 4 whole memories per process?!
I don’t think this is of interest, this is an article in a student journal, written by one person which seems to be a student too. The quote is weak and cherry-picked.
A quote from the same paper:
Security measures in Linux are slim to none as it is a free OS to download.
Linux is the most secure among all OS given that it is an open- source operating system which gives users the ability to customize and implement security patches.
Imagine trusting folks to keep their stuff up-to-date, though. People get very hostile at the mere suggestion that they need to update when “everything works fine right now, why should I?”
When people say that (usually older folks that are used to something) they usually mean the UI. I wish there was a vendor that would keep their UI constant while patching just security and bugs.
It wouldn’t be such an issue if each OS didn’t have several design languages side by side.
Windows has 10 different design languages all still there in the OS. It should have stuck with MetroUI and finished updating everything to it, Fluent is an eyesore in my opinion.
MacOS can’t keep things consistent to save itself.
And Linux has KDE/Breeze and Gnome/Adwaita in their niches, with the older Windows 95 imitations still around.
Android is probably the least worst. Material and Material U.
The quote is not about installing security patches but implementing them. Terrible paper.
Honest question, what does MacOS do better than Linux? The only benefit Mac has, IMO, is their ecosystem, and if you don’t use Facetime or iMessage I see no reason to stay on MacOS vs installing something like Linux Mint. My case is a little different, since my Macbook Pro keyboard no longer works UNLESS I am on Linux, but I still much prefer Linux to MacOS in almost every way.
They still do.
I did a wtf at dude 4 in frame 3 until I realized he was getting punched and not… well… if you don’t see it maybe I’m just net-warped.
i mean, dude 3 of frame 3 has the right expression for someone in that exact situation
Thought he was giving the zucc as well
Lol this comment section is on fire. Irony died in 2015.
People like a good flame war 🤷
Just because one understands trolling doesn’t mean it can’t be fun to discuss the things the troll brought up.
Especially when it’s cold outside.
Thank you, you made a buncha nerds angry and now they’re fighting in the comment section >:(
Agreed. Thank you, but sincerely.
*flames, screaming, sound of glass breaking*
God I love the smell of Usenet in the morning
But everyone knows that Mint is the best Unix. (Secret giggle behind my hand.)
I first resurrected a dead PC with RedHat before the turn of the century, mind, and that thing had UPTIME.
I still have me a massive soft spot for Solaris back in the day, though.
I did the same, in the late 90s, and that computer got h4xx3d in two weeks through a vulnerability in Apache.
That was a really good learning experience.
I ran Apache on a box at work, but it was configured by our insanely intelligent sysadmin. Nothing got past her. Never met a sysadmin as brilliant as her. I don’t know how they managed to hire and retain her, but she was given a lot of freedom to run things how she liked - she even had a custom firewall between us and head office!
I also had an insanely cheery yellow iMac G3 at the same time - if it made it through the first ten minutes without crashing it would make it through the day. Somehow its stability and resilience improved over time. Not so my windows PC. If you left that on too long, memleak.dll and slowdown.dll would take over and everything would get shakier and shakier. I never quite got used to only having one button though on the mac.
Mint really is the best :)
Love me some Linux mint.
