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    Now lemmy is flooding me with corporate propaganda? Good on the company for doing the right thing, but when I see this same headline in multiple communities on here, it reminds me of reddit.

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      Is it propaganda, though? How about we celebrate the few nice things going for us and just enjoy it for a second. We should be praising this regardless of our ideals because the world is very far from ideal.

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        Yeah, it probably is propaganda. Costco has been doing some cartoonishly shitty union busting recently for which they received a ton of backlash. Now, suddenly, we’re all supposed to be on their side because they said “DEI is good”? IDK, it might just be me, but that rings a bit hollow from a company that has a long (and very recent) history of doing shit like “changing the locks on union bulletin boards so the reps can’t put up any notices”.

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    what kind of cartoon world are we living in that i’m actually on the side of a corporation for once

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    It’s DEI just Equal Opportunity with a fresh coat of paint so racists/misogynists don’t sound like boomers from the 90s when they complain about it?

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      Diversity, Equality, Inclusion.

      Yes, DEI is just the new name for “stop discriminating against non-white males”

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    DEI is all about making money by using resources that being racist and dumb leaves on the table. The moment it becomes too expensive DEI won’t fix it.

    Id rather have DEI than not have it, but DEI is for company profit, any other benefits are secondary.

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    It’s just plain weird to me that this isn’t seen as the lowest bar in the world, but I’m definitely still taking the W.

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      It’s not that it’s such a great act in itself, it’s no where near enough.

      But.
      This is a significant win as a large, profitable and respected company is seen to be doing something so insignificant and get such good marketing results. This is the best kind of encouragement we can give to the souless retail machine 😉 And yes… “We will sing your praises if you just follow basic laws” is a pretty low bar, but here we are 😄

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      Orphan-crushing machine refuses to accelerate crushing orphans is a now feel good story yet again.

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        This false dichotomy of all or nothing merely benefits the status quo.

        A small improvement is better than no improvement and all progress has to start with a first step, somewhere, somehow.

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          But this isn’t a small improvement.

          The DEI policy was already in place.

          When that got enacted was the improvement.

          This is just not a step backward.

          A step forward would be something like… we’ve restructered into a democratically run co-op, in a tri cameral structure, your costco membership now grants you a vote in something approximating the US House of Representatives, employees now all get votes in some higher authority body approximating the Senate, and then the board of directors acts as a multi person executive branch.

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        How is Costco an orphan crushing machine?

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          Costco is slightly less egregious than its counterparts, but it is still very much a part of the system and went along with the insane profiteering price increases on essentials.

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            Costco: Has higher wages and better benefits than competitors, pushes back to keep their DEI policies to protect their most vulnerable employees

            You: they’re evil

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              the thing is, the system in which we have to function forces corporations and people to do evil things, even against their intention or will. being good means sooner or later becoming bankrupt as now you’re working against the system and losing profits.

              as another person mentioned - if their suppliers artificially raise prices, whether Costco wants it or not, they have to raise them as well. the market just forced them to do something that limited the amount of things an individual can purchase with their paycheque (as we know, salaries haven’t been exactly keeping up with inflation), and pushed more people into poverty as a result

              no corporation is good, and very few are still fighting against becoming fully evil. and as you can see, the fights get more ridiculous every year, the bar of being “good” keeps getting lower

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              Your argument would hold more weight if Costco encouraged or even complied with unions. Just because Costco is making sure it won’t be the subject of discrimination lawsuits does not make them the good guy here. I don’t care how many free samples and $1.50 hotdogs you get.

              Also that’s a pretty reductive take on what @N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com posted. They were merely highlighting that the larger system in which Costco operates is exploitive. Not that Costco themselves were inherently evil.

              https://teamster.org/2024/12/costco-refuses-to-accept-98-of-teamsters-proposals/

              https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/teamsters-file-unfair-labor-practice-charges-against-costco/

              https://jacobin.com/2024/01/costco-workers-unionization-teamsters

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                I was looking to see if I wasn’t hallucinating.

                So, they’re standing by their DEI policies. Good. They’re still anti-union. Bad.

                I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Costco is the least scummy corporation, but they’re still a corporation.

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            They’re a business at the end of the day. If their suppliers raise their prices, they have no choice but to do the same in order to not go broke overnight. It sucks for everyone, and nobody can avoid it.

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      Questions against it is usually bigoted. It seemed to be the popular MAGA dogwhistle this election.

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        It’s not really a dogwhistle, DEI is diversity, equity and inclusion - they’re outright saying they don’t want diversity equity and inclusion.

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          DEI is a dog whistle in that for conservatives it means woke. They want companies to continue oppressing non white, non-cis, non-hetero people. Or at the very least, not actively elevate them.

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            But we can hear the whistle too. Being against diversity, equality, and inclusion is pretty blatant mask-off stuff.

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                My point here is there’s no coded language - DEI is expressly about promoting minority groups. They are explicitly attacking that.

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                  Oh, for sure. I agree with you that this is not dogwhistling; I was just quibbling a little over your description of what dogwhistling is. MAGAs use a wide variety of dishonest rhetorical tactics: there’s lying for the purpose of outright deception, dogwhistling to signal intent while maintaining deniability, and then whatever this tactic is called – euphemizing, maybe? – to state their idea plainly but spin it as less bad than it actually is.

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              No. It means implying something from something more tame. For example, in this case, it’s an objection to any support for gay, trans etc. Rather than saying that outright, they’d say DEI is over the top. Which is attending to sound subtle and against a policy or practice when it’s against minorities. Its a dog whistle. Like anti-immigration is usually used in as a racist dog whistle.

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                It needs to have a coded element to it, some people hear what’s really being said, some do not, like an actual dog whistle. There is no coded element here, it’s explicitly attacking gay, trans, women, basically any minority group because that’s expressly what DEI is about.

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      American History X has a scene about it, although racists were programmed with different words 30 years ago.