Cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/34117495

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  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Probably also using computers. And I’ve heard that CEO drink water too.

    You know that the ones who started anti-AI movement were capitalists, don’t you? Poor capitalists but capitalists that want to live without working out of the profits given by their Intelectual Private Property.

    Primitivism are actually working against the interest of the working class. Without technology the workers are the ones who will need to work for more hours to obtain the same level of life quality.

    Any proper worker cannot wait for having to do less tedious work, and mess workhours in general thanks to the improvements in technology.

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      I don’t have a problem with the concept of generative AI my guy. What you call “primitivism” I call having an ethical issue with basically everything surrounding how it’s done right now. Also, I am a creative person so I do actually believe in IP.

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        We live in a capitalist word. Almost every use of every technology is unethical.

        But people hold a special grudge against AI.

        Same example as before. Is United Healthcare use AI for denying treatment it got pointed out. If they used a Java app and traditional algorithms to do so, it’s not the technology which we point out, don’t we?

        If AI is forced in windows 11 by Microsoft, it’s pointed out. But if they force Teams, we don’t hate communication applications, don’t we? We don’t say that communication applications are bad and unethical. Even if most of them are as property of big tech as AI is.

        Now the question is, why AI is getting this special treatment?

        In order to get the answer I traces where the hated started. There was AI before. And the first by jump in generative AI was not hated, quite the contrary it got plenty of praise. But then Image generation came… And it rubbed artist the wrong way, thus the anti-AI movement started.

        Also I looked for other correlations with people against AI. And I found that they tend to be against any new technology from the last 5-10 years or so.

        So that’s how I found the answer of that question. Just looking at the origins and looking at who had those opinions.

        I have found that the genesis of most things is the key to really understand them. And this genesis really explains why if an AI takes workers jobs it’s hated and pointed out, but if a python script does the same it’s not.

        I’m an open minded person. If I get a better answer to that question that bugs me, I would reconsider my position. But I’m yet to read any rational answer on:

        Why AI gets a special treatment when judging its unethical uses when compared with any other technology also being unethically used by corporations and capitalism?

        Btw, being creative is not excuse to believe in Intelectual Property. Plenty of creative people do not believe in Private Property and/or Intelectual Property. I can make an example out of myself on this, as I make small videogames for a hobby, which is a form of art, and all of them all open source, I didn’t even put a license on them of any kind. So being creative does not need to equal believing in Intelectual Property, same as working with means of production does not equal believing in the private ownership of those means of production. What you do and what you believe in can be, and often are, separated.

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          You are correct, AI is getting a lot of flack for unethical behavior, when unethical behavior is inherent to the neo capitalist mindset.

          And primitivism is obviously on the rise too, which is represented by the rise in individualism, nationalism, fascism worldwide.