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Hey, Americans, nothing stops your Democrat-run blue states from improving your healthcare.
nothing stops your Democrat-run blue states from improving your healthcare.
Given the two party system, and the fact that republicans arent in power in these states, that only leaves the Democrats themselves.
End First Past The Post voting. Introduce competition into the electoral process. FREE voters ability to choose.
But I guess that isn’t profitable enough for some.
Nothing lasts forever…
Capital flight.
Out of California, New York, Massachusetts? Lol, yea right.
Maybe. It’s worth trying.
Why? UHC is cheaper than the current system. You wouldn’t need any extra taxes.
Really shows me how traumatized I am by United Health Care when I see UHC and it immediately brings them to mind and not Universal. I had to put in some work to understand that Acronym
It’s only cheaper if you consider current healthcare costs. It would require tax increases, and under current progressive tax models, those would be disproportionately high for the upper class, for whom the increase would not offset the elimination of their healthcare premium.
No, the sum of all premiums paid by all Americans is way more than is required. You could make it a flat tax and it’d still be cheaper.
The tax increase is more than offset by the cost of premiums.
Yeah we need to deflate the disproportionately high pricing of the health care caused by insurance as well, if we could get it at the national level we could eliminate a lot of the back office overhead, and then maybe negotiate a revisit of the master charge list so that Tylenol in hospital isn’t something crazy like $250 dollars a dose. State by state this would probably be much more difficult.
Me catching up on historical Christian theology on YouTube to help contextualize the spirituality of my youth:
I’m loving this lecturer’s depth of knowledge on this subject and he’s right that literally every person who knows that religion exists has some kind of theological standpoint whether or not they even believe in a God at all-
-but I completely disagree that the specific question of divinity is worth even asking let alone debating or worst case scenario creating divisions between people over. This isn’t even me saying I believe in it or not in fact I specifically refuse to engage with that question in any way.
Debates regarding the divinity of Jesus have been overwhelmingly used throughout history to provide cover for ideologies that both directly contradict the actual words of Jesus and which have caused the suffering and death of millions. “It’s fine that we rape children because we believe in the divinity of Jesus!” The nicene creed ruined one of if not the greatest antiestablishment movements in history and was instrumental in its transformation into itself being the abusive establishment.
Now, I do understand that this makes me by default non-nicene, but it’s the fact that that binary exists in the first place that I specifically object to. They’re the ones making it an issue for no reason other than to have something to hold over other people’s heads that requires no actual thought or effort. They don’t have to actually debate theology, they’ve ended the discussion there by choosing a fundamentally unprovable premise to hinge their entire argument on. They’ve absolved themselves of expending any effort to better the world because by saying one passage out loud their labor is complete.
The nicene creed exists for no other reason than to wage ideological and literal wars over so that real good can be ignored or even fought against. It does not improve the world in any way. The nicene creed ruined Christianity.
Thank you for coming to my TEDTalk.
I can’t help but to agree with you on more or less all points made.
I made the same journey during COVID, ultimately arriving at a similar place that the Nicene Creed was the first in a long line of obvious retconned political and human decisions. For what is worth, I also feel like it’s in the same vein as most of what Paul did, codifying and standardizing to the detriment of the source material and to the benefit of anyone willing to take charge.
I’m still genuinely shocked that anyone can read the Gospels and then not see the record-scratch pivot in tone for everything else afterwards. Well, shocked in as far as to then be disappointed at how easily a mess of addenda created something antithetical to a bunch of nebulous good vibes with no clear avenue to monetize it all.
Which, oddly enough, Buddhism does as well, but owns it as part of the process.
wow :D if that sun didn’t move it would be flawless.
in this type of artwork, that depicts a halo, not the sun. The AI actually got that right
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God
Matthew 19:24
If you’re on lemmy, you’re probably rich. Like worldwide rich.
Edit: Yall hating on me, just like any mf from Tajikistan hates you. Yeah. That’s a real country and 1% of your income could change their lives but you’ve never thought about it because you’re trying to keep up with the Joneses and thinking about Musk
comfortably rich in [pick whatever capital city you want] is a grain of sand compared to being a billionaire though, that is the level of disparity we are talking about
I understand that. the Bible makes no such exceptions and probably couldn’t imagine what we have now. we should help who we can. we live better than any king in the Bible. I know about the disparity that exists now. my only point is that everyone here on lemmy is likely above the world median but acts like they are paupers because they compare themselves to celebrities. I hear Oxfam does good work if you don’t want to work locally. I’m down with eat the rich, just please don’t mistake yourself for poor if you’re not. if there wasn’t an ocean between the usa and Africa we would probably look at wealth differently. but all that said, of course the wealth graph shouldn’t look exponentially increasing, but for a biblical discussion I think you can ignore the top 5% as a historical anomaly ignoring the usury.
Very ironic imho to use AI to celebrate this guy.
Why?
Anti-AI is a small primitivism and/or IP protection movement.
It has nothing to do with the working class struggle. Or the right to have proper healthcare.
It’s incredible how successfully the AI topic has been hijacked by copyright propaganda.
Copyright is bad, period. Barking at AI for using copyrighted shit for training just makes it less accessible to train for anyone BUT the mega rich.
Let’s say we do ban copyright data for training. Then only Google, Microsoft and Apple can releastically source data for training. That and countries that don’t respect this like China and Iran right? Ok, so now they hired farms of people to produce training material and release their models that NOBODY can compete with. Everything is literally worse in every possible way now and AI is fully owned by corporate overlords.
I genuinely don’t understand the though process of these people. We want information to be free and accessible to everyone, no?
IMO it should be illegal to monetize things made by AI trained on copyrighted material unless you also make the model open source and freely available for download. That doesn’t stifle innovation.
I think that’s a fair take though the world is allergic to “open source” being a part of our government. I mean, we can’t even open source government projects paid by citizens in most countries so introducing open source as part of our governing process is basically impossible.
United Healthcare was using AI to deny claims.
Also saying AI has nothing to do with the working class struggle is hilarious.
This is such a stretch. AI used to deny claims and video animation AI are so far apart that you might as well be complaining that both of these two things are using the same electrons 🙄
Well, I disagree. They may be trained on different data sets but both represent the same ethical problems with generative AI right now, imho.
Probably also using computers. And I’ve heard that CEO drink water too.
You know that the ones who started anti-AI movement were capitalists, don’t you? Poor capitalists but capitalists that want to live without working out of the profits given by their Intelectual Private Property.
Primitivism are actually working against the interest of the working class. Without technology the workers are the ones who will need to work for more hours to obtain the same level of life quality.
Any proper worker cannot wait for having to do less tedious work, and mess workhours in general thanks to the improvements in technology.
I don’t have a problem with the concept of generative AI my guy. What you call “primitivism” I call having an ethical issue with basically everything surrounding how it’s done right now. Also, I am a creative person so I do actually believe in IP.
We live in a capitalist word. Almost every use of every technology is unethical.
But people hold a special grudge against AI.
Same example as before. Is United Healthcare use AI for denying treatment it got pointed out. If they used a Java app and traditional algorithms to do so, it’s not the technology which we point out, don’t we?
If AI is forced in windows 11 by Microsoft, it’s pointed out. But if they force Teams, we don’t hate communication applications, don’t we? We don’t say that communication applications are bad and unethical. Even if most of them are as property of big tech as AI is.
Now the question is, why AI is getting this special treatment?
In order to get the answer I traces where the hated started. There was AI before. And the first by jump in generative AI was not hated, quite the contrary it got plenty of praise. But then Image generation came… And it rubbed artist the wrong way, thus the anti-AI movement started.
Also I looked for other correlations with people against AI. And I found that they tend to be against any new technology from the last 5-10 years or so.
So that’s how I found the answer of that question. Just looking at the origins and looking at who had those opinions.
I have found that the genesis of most things is the key to really understand them. And this genesis really explains why if an AI takes workers jobs it’s hated and pointed out, but if a python script does the same it’s not.
I’m an open minded person. If I get a better answer to that question that bugs me, I would reconsider my position. But I’m yet to read any rational answer on:
Why AI gets a special treatment when judging its unethical uses when compared with any other technology also being unethically used by corporations and capitalism?
Btw, being creative is not excuse to believe in Intelectual Property. Plenty of creative people do not believe in Private Property and/or Intelectual Property. I can make an example out of myself on this, as I make small videogames for a hobby, which is a form of art, and all of them all open source, I didn’t even put a license on them of any kind. So being creative does not need to equal believing in Intelectual Property, same as working with means of production does not equal believing in the private ownership of those means of production. What you do and what you believe in can be, and often are, separated.
You’ve got a particular worldview that I’m not interested in engaging with. Happy holidays.
Fair enough. Have good holidays!
You are correct, AI is getting a lot of flack for unethical behavior, when unethical behavior is inherent to the neo capitalist mindset.
And primitivism is obviously on the rise too, which is represented by the rise in individualism, nationalism, fascism worldwide.
If you think it has nothing to do with the working class struggle you need to go back to square one and begin again. There isn’t much that isn’t impacted by the rise of AI.
I wont take lessons of primitivists, sorry.
People against technological advancements are against the progress of the working class.
The only chance for people to live good lives is to delegate a great amount of work to the machines. That’s just it.
If you think that primitivism is the answer and got fooled by the anti-AI movement you should be going back to square one. Start reading the basics until you learn that technological progress is not the problem, human greediness and capitalism is.
You’re tilting at windmills. It’s not about rejecting technological advancement. It’s about ensuring its fairness and accessability.
Yes, technology can be (and is) used for social good. It can also be (and is) used to opress and supress. What’s more both dynamics are happening at the same time. The world isn’t black-and-white. The human condition is complex.
That’s exactly my point.
AI is just another technology. If some corporation does bad things with it is just bad. If some people do good things with it then is good.
But people charge at AI just because itself. They are against the technology. Not the corporations using it.
I have been given the example “But UH is using AI to deny medical treatment”. What if instead of AI they would have used a Java application? They would be against Java? No, because that argument is not rational.
They are just against AI because etsy artists who made easy money doing porn commission got their hustle broken by AI doing a better job for free. That’s just how the anti-AI movement somehow got mixed in some leftist circles, because etsy artists are too influential in those circles. And their complain got blown out of proportions.
Seems like you’re prescribing a lot of opinions to the people you’re replying to. But if you go back and read what they wrote carefully you should see that your deductions and assumptions about what they think don’t really stand the test of reason and semantics. Especially given how much of a tech-focused forum this is. Every third post is about Linux - so realistically what are the chances that you are enaging with primitivists on here?
Linux is not a “scary new technology”. It has been around forever.
Try to look for a positive view on any technology that has been blooming in the last 5-10 years instead. You’ll find few. At least I find few.
For instance, self driving cars are also hated. Digital currency instead of cash (not talking about cryptocurrency, just things like digital euro, or digital yuan). Any form of digitalization of anything that wasn’t digital until the last 5 years seems to be hated.
Welp, even smartphones seems to be hated. The other day I stumbled into a post where a lot of people said that they preferred old fliphones and where considering getting one instead of a smartphone.
Technobros used as derogatory term. Hell, even Luigi was being called out here for being a “technobro”.
Primitivism is on the rise. I wish it wasn’t, but it is.
No one is really talking about AI as inherently bad. It’s current implementation is impossible to separate from consolidated ownership by big tech and environmental rape in the name of delivering a technology that has no clear use case to the end consumer yet.
Just because people don’t want unpack all of that nuance for pedants like you doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
Until AI means something different than the transgressive genAI integration and resource hoarding of big Tech - indeed until AI is no longer synonymous with Big Tech, then all of this wretched handwringing you’re engaging in over the distinction between the two will continue to be useless, meaningless, and fucking annoying.
Spend your time on something useful. Would you like a new prompt?
They actually are though.
Environmental rape. Fun meaningless term, when having Photoshop open for hours is more environmentally damaging that creating the equivalent with Stable Diffusion.
You cannot unpack any nuance because you are intellectually incapable of doing so. As you only seem to follow the latest trend for your favourite influencer, without actually making any real analysis of what you are saying or writing. The “funny meaningless terminology” you used is more than enough indicator to me that behind those words there are not any thoughts.
I’m not big tech and I use AI, in a computer with a top 40W consumption. So try again cave boy. Try tell me how I’m “raping” earth with that use of AI.
Sorry for all the names thrown in this post, but you got it coming.
I hope that if you hate AI because it’s overly and needlessly used by big tech everywhere you at least would have the decency of hating JavaScript too.
This animation is incredible. The best AI generated animation I think I’ve seen. The only weird thing I can detect is the excessive flopping of his sleeve. But to make up for it is the way his index finger is slightly bent because you can’t tuck the rest of your fingers all the way in without doing so. Crazy stuff.
How about his addams apple (throat lozenge) shifting all the way to the side?
Oh good catch! That’s a bit wonky. Through his shoulders do turn that way so I can kinda see what the AI was “thinking”.
Nice observation
Holy shit, that’s the best AI animation I have seen yet!
This is the worst AI video generation will ever be.
It’s getting truly scary. The assault on fact will be much easier going forward.
That is like saying that Jurassic Park was the worst that special effects would ever be.
I think I agree. I thought it was remarkably realistic and not in the uncanny valley like almost all AI animations.
Like almost all AI animations that you recognize as AI animations. The technology is advancing quite rapidly.
AIfox on YouTube has done some pretty crazy ai edits to star wars. https://youtu.be/k_0mTC7AbZs
Off topic. This is definitely not a shitpost
Upvote nonetheless
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Kinda wanted to redeem myself in this community after my chad mctruth shitposts bombed lol
^(Also, when searching for Luigi on Lemmy and sorting by top, the original image this video is based on shows up from this community)
Downvoted for AI. Luigi would be very disappointed in the use of a tool built by exploiting and abusing the working class.
It’s a tool. We can use it just like they can. Don’t start presuming and gatekeeping.
It’s a tool made unethically. Just because corporations use sweat shop labor doesn’t mean we should, too. The Screen Actors Guild has been on strike for weeks now demanding contracts for jobs that ensure that their performances won’t be used to train AI models to replace them. Would you cross the picket line and use an AI Harrison Ford?
Open source LLMs or those trained on ethically sourced data are awesome. OpenAI saying that they would go bankrupt if they can’t steal copyrighted material for their training data is not. Unless they end up getting into trouble for pissing off Disney and going bankrupt. That would be hilarious.
Gently recommending that he may not embody your/our political grievances in reality.
Obviously. But we’re talking about a made-up saint here, not the actual man himself.
In the same way that I didn’t actually bother downvoting, I figured it was in the spirit of the meme to present it the same way people attribute their values to Jesus.
But it is important to remind people how these current iterations of generative AI are damaging to the livelihoods of working-class people. The goals of the companies making these are the same as UHC - the violence is just more silent and slower paced.
Thanks for explaining, I wasn’t on that page. Not used to thinking in terms of fictionalised personages in terms of current events.
Same page with regard to AI though, the point is well made. I’m all too familiar with slow violence.
It’s easily missed, especially in the form of text. There’s too many people who believe crazier things to not take stuff at face value, I know.
…it’s a meme
Made using a tool created by stealing the effort of the working class. Giving it a pass is like giving Temu a pass on working conditions and pay because it’s just cheap garbage.
Fucking scared the SHIT out of me when it animated!
Nearly threw my hands up and yelled I AM NOT A CEO
down with AI trash
I looks really good, though.
Someone should mail this to a few CEOs lmao
I can’t find the words to properly express how much I love this.
To St.Luigi we pray
Let my dick be much longer
Let my dick be much girthier
Let my foreskin be the perfect size
Grow my left ball to match my right one
Bless me with huge tits for my lovely wife
Better knees for both of us
Give us health and healthcare
Turn putin, Trump, and other evils around
Turn them around twice at the top than the bottom
Make all suffering become happiness
End money
End banks
End wars
End war machines
End diseases, especially sexual ones, so we can fuck freely without fear
Give animals their habitat back
Give us the power to need less from the world
Free Luigi from evil justice
End all evil governments
Give us useful governments
It worked! It worked!
My wife loves my huge tits!
How’d you know that thing about my balls?
I just thought to add something we can all benefit from.
We all should pray for the biggest most beautiful and cancer free tits women have ever had. C’mon St. Luigi!
Saint Buddy Luigi
Isn’t that Charles Leclerc?
