Edit: Here’s a link to what is most likely the real manifesto: https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/luigis-manifesto

Ken Klippenstein is a very reliable journalist and this version of the manifesto contains the snippets that have been released by law enforcement. Also, considering the thing was hand-written, that very long version involving his mom is dubious. (And there’s not any good evidence that his mom is in anything besides decent/good health)

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    The author here knows what they’re talking about, and while not explicitly saying it, they’re saying there will be more Luigi’s, Adjusters, whatever attention grabbing description you like.

    More business execs will be recognized as the tyrants they are, and shot. Because the entire world just taught all the school shooter types that shooting a business exec will turn you into a folk hero. It will get you fame and admiration. It will get people trying to send you money for your legal defense. It will get you people spreading the word about jury nullification to use the system against itself.

    This month taught would be school shooters to instead go for board members, ceos, and billionaires. And it’s a far better lesson.

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      Pain makes people desperate. Desperate people are not known for being particularly calm about things, and it is entirely unreasonable to expect calm and decorum from someone in constant pain (that can be improved if not eliminated by certain treatments that are unfortunately usually quite expensive).

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    “peaceful protest is outright ignored, economic protest isn’t possible in the current system, so how long until we recognize that violence against those who lead us to such destruction is justified as self-defense.”

    🤘

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    So Doctors, take note of this when sending authorization requests: corporate executive homicide is now a known symptom/side-effect of untreated or insufficiently treated pain and mental health issues.

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      Unfortunately, that would end up under the Tarasoff precedent and we would be required by law to report it to police and the intended target. There’s better ways to weasel around this when filing insurance paperwork, but we’ll have to have a designated person in the clinic whose job it is to fight with the insurance companies.

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        Headache? Report to police.

        Back Pain? Report to police. (That nearly 30% of all Americans have suffered from)

        You get a police report. You get a police report! Everybody gets a police report!!! - Oprah Winfrey the MD

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          You have to make a report if the patient expresses homicidal ideation, intent, and a plan with a specific target or targets in mind. If the target is a particular person (like a partner or friend) you are supposed to notify that person directly or ensure that the police notify them.

          Establishing any kind of precedent that chronic pain = homicidal ideation and intent is an extremely bad idea, and not something I’m even willing to joke about.

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            Yeah I get it, as a doctor your professional rep is on the line, inserting casual threats to insurance execs is not something to do (unless you can somehow organize it across a large group to keep insurers’ feet to the fire).

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              For me, it’s not the professional reputation, but the second that kind of thing gets tagged onto a patient’s chart, it becomes extremely hard to expunge. There are a lot of patients with mental illnesses (some which are misdiagnoses) that face significant problems because of that diagnosis. If a chart gets flagged with “homicidal ideation” at any point, that patient will forever be flagged as dangerous and people will be suspicious of them immediately.

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    Well put together piece. Im saddened at my impression that this will largely change nothing in the insurance industry besides executives funneling off money to hire security rather than funneling more of that money into patient care

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          It will be. But because it has its limits, eventually they would opt to just not fucking be dirt bags in the first place.

          Would you choose to be a ceo if you knew there was a chance you’d get shot, drone bombed, poisoned, etc?

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            there was a chance you’d get shot, drone bombed, poisoned, etc?

            Two of those haven’t happened yet, right?

            I feel like a CEO dying because someone took a job as a caterer and poisoned him would be hilarious, but probably not as evocative as shooting him dead on the street.

            Drones would probably be terrifying. Would the authorities even be able to trace it back to you? I don’t think you can just buy a murder drone but you could probably make one with an explosive or chemical payload. I’d love to see CEOs flinching every time they hear something outside.

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              Two of those haven’t happened yet, right?

              Not to my knowledge. Though it’s only a matter of time.

              Would the authorities even be able to trace it back to you?

              If you built the drone entirely on your own with 3d printing and spare parts, I’d imagine it would be much harder.

              I don’t think you can just buy a murder drone but you could probably make one with an explosive or chemical payload

              It’s definitely something you’d have to [REDACTED]

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    If he is the shooter, than we can also confirm he chose to act out by targeting an insurance.

    A grammar error, good to see this was human written. Less good to see that they’re just trying to pull stuff out of their ass to fluff the article.