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This is the power of the fediverse.
You can have all the anti speech rules you want on your instance, people can just start posting elsewhere using the same account and app.
We have a good chance now to see how well this theory works in reality. Exciting times!
It has already worked in the past.
!movies@lemm.ee and !showsandmovies@lemm.ee replaced !moviesandtv@lemm.ee
For the details on the powertrip: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/29606682
Thanks for the example!
And they are now some (if not the) largest communities on those subjects on the Threadiverse (and the top communities on their instance), so I consider that point demonstrated.
It’s like the original idea behind the Net - if a node goes down, everything shifts to accommodate. If the power posters switch to a specific community people will just use that more.
Reasons for starting a new community:
- Avoid centralisation
- Avoid tankie instances
- If you don’t agree with the current Mods or Admins
We’ve done all that and it has worked.
I say it worked out, I posted this that is about a topic that’s been getting banned in lemmy.world.
The problem is that the community you might want to be involved with might be under them. The mods do not represent a community, and may even work against it. This is sort of what happened in reddit’s worldnews, where its mods have worked to make it be the neozionist hotspot it is today.
You end up doing pretty much what you do in reddit if you want to continue participating in a community, just creating another alt and try to post when the asshole mods are not active. Most people don’t just move on to the discount alternative community with 90% less people participating in it.
The whole algorithm of what a community is really needs to be reworked, but most people on lemmy just seem to want discount reddit.
It has already worked in the past.
!movies@lemm.ee and !showsandmovies@lemm.ee replaced !moviesandtv@lemm.ee
For the details on the powertrip: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/29606682
Just FYI: the second !showsandmovies@lemm.ee should be !moviesandtv@lemm.ee.
Well spotted!
I think what ends up happening though is the number of people that actually end up seeing your content is so small it’s kinda pointless.
Seems like it becomes a situation of “which wind would you like to piss into.”
…that’s kind of what all of this is regardless, no?
There isn’t that many people posting on Lemmy as a whole, so people will follow where the content gets posted.
!newcommunities@lemmy.world helps to promote new communities
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!movies@lemm.ee and !showsandmovies@lemm.ee replaced !moviesandtv@lemm.ee
For the details on the powertrip: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/29606682
One of the greatest country songs ever made. My own personal anthem.
The best part is the left wing instances that .worlders kept complaing are removing it less
Lemmy.ml doesn’t have the best track record either: https://feddit.nl/post/16246531
That’s not exactly a new phenomenon for .world.
General purpose instances are terrible for decentralization because they basically just put every reddit community on .world. instances revolving around a certain topic or region (like country instances or slrpnk or lemdroid) make more sense with the hierarchical structure of Lemmy.
- !movies@lemm.ee
- !animation@lemm.ee
- !globalnews@lemmy.zip
- !showsandmovies@lemm.ee
- !map_enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz
Not sure what you mean, there are quite a few examples of communities being on other general instances than LW
Reddit power tripping mods migrated en masse to lemmy.world and recreated another Reddit environment there ! glad the fedivere isn’t constrained to big servers. but this is still a big problem to resolve as those mods make it hard to engage in conversations with communities that are solely hosted on their instances.
with communities that are solely hosted on their instances.
This is the beauty of the Fediverse. If you don’t like the way a community is being run, start a new one. It’s a drum @Blaze@feddit.org has been beating for a while.
As a matter of principle we should be wary of centralisation and think carefully about where to start a community. I’d also suggest starting communities elsewhere if the main one is on lemmy.ml.
From the linked thread, as a reminder:
This is not a lemmy.world admin, who would actually speak on behalf of the whole instance (Not that those haven’t done questionable shit either, but not to this level). It’s a mod on community that happens to be hosted on lemmy.world, and they are citing the lemmy.world ToS in bad faith. Just like a corrupt cop will think of some bullshit law to arrest you if they wanted to abuse their power.
The admins stepped in for vegan cats. If they remove mods they do not agree with they could have done so here.
The MBFC bot was also top down straight from the admins.
The admins stepped in for vegan cats.
An admin stepped in for vegan cats, and had his decision reversed by the other admins.
The MBFC bot was also top-down straight from the admins.
An admin stepped in for vegan cats, and had his decision reversed by the other admins.
Why am I not surprised people are exaggerating things to get mad about, lol.
Recent studies in the last 3 years point to the contrary. That is misrepresenting the situation as synthetic taurine, B12 and vitamin A can be provided in a plant-based diet through the form of reputable kibble brands.
Sources:
-https://sustainablepetfood.info/
-https://bmcvetres.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12917-021-02754-8
-https://www.magonlinelibrary.com/doi/abs/10.12968/vetn.2022.13.6.252
-https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0253292
-https://www.mdpi.com/2306-7381/10/1/52
-https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0284132
-https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S240584402411609X
Curiously clicked on the very last link at random and this is an excerpt of what I am reading:
In 1994, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) reported results of a systematic survey of the health of 300 vegetarian dogs sourced from 33 states within the U.S. and Canada via PETA’s newsletter [54,55]. Dogs ranged in age from young puppies to 19 years old, and included a wide range of breeds, males and females, both neutered and entire. Of these, 65.3% (196/300) were vegan, with the remaining 34.7% (104/300) simply vegetarian. They had been maintained on these diets for anywhere from less than two, to over nine years, with an average of 5.7 years. The precise diets used, and their level of nutritional adequacy, are unknown. Over 80% of dogs maintained on vegan or vegetarian diets for 50% to 100% of their lifetimes were reported as being in good to excellent health (Figure 1).
Bolded the absolutely laughable parts. The other “studies” mentioned in that article are about the same: Voluntary participation in a non-compensated study (leads to self-selection bias), owners simply reporting everything is fine (how do they know? perceived fur shininess is baloney), blood tests inconclusive.
The best you can pull from that article is that switching to a vegetarian diet for your cat/dog is likely not immediately endangering them. So it’s more “do so at your own risk” instead of “it’s recommended” and I don’t see how that is in the best interest of your pet, I’m sorry.
So you’re cherry picking right there.
It was the first article I openend and it was a nothing burger, so I guess. And based on your response I’m not gonna dissect the other links because you just want to be right about your personal choice anyway.
And based on your response I’m not gonna dissect the other links because you just want to be right about your personal choice anyway.
That’s literally projection, you’re doing everything you can to deny the scientific evidence to keep up the status quo to back to your obsolete beliefs.
Kibble brands are McDonald’s of pet food. Everything they do must be avoided like cancer. Everyone who spreads their misinformation must be cancelled.
It’s not just one though
Yeah, just important to remember that this is a moderation problem as it currently stands, rather than an administration problem.
On the other hand, little cow is claiming to be speaking for the admins, the post has been on the front page and is now 2 days old, and the admins haven’t said a word to disagree.
I really need to get around to switching to a different instance.
Feel free, it’s quite easy with the export/import settings feature
Brilliant!
Blaze coming into the rescue!
We need a Blaze Signal - “somewhere on the Fediverse an injustice is being committed (probably someone not embracing the power of federation) or there’s an instance I don’t have an alt on. Hopefully both.”
😂
I think the keywords chili dogs or churros would grab his attention.
I’m on world and want to swap. Do I keep my username and all the communities I follow if I swap?
To keep your username, you just need to register using the same username on that instance.
For the subscriptions and blocklists, those are included in the export/import settings feature, available in your account settings
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Is there a guide on how to do so?
- on your old account, open the settings, click on “Export” button under “Import/Export Settings”
- on your new account, open the settings, click on “Import” button under “Import/Export Settings” and use the file you got at the previous step
Thanks!
Guess I need to do this on a computer and not in the iOS Voyager app
Probably indeed!
I’ve found sh.itjust.works to be pretty decent so far.
Maybe it’s just me, but I never had that much of a problem with reddit mods. The only mods with which I had a problem, were tankie mods who had a problem with me calling them out on their mass murdering authoritarian bullshit
I came here because money hungry corpos fucked over my reddit client if choice and their official app sucks balls.
Reddit was easier because everyone pigeonholed themselves in subs they could exist in with minimum conflict. You wanted to be there. Jumping into All accidentally instead of your subscribed Front Page was often a surprise dumpster fire.
Lemmy is small enough that most participants don’t just stick to their subscribed communities, they go to All because there’s more to see.
Reddit didn’t have entire sets of communities banded together equivalent to an instance operating top to bottom with parallel internal ideologies that fanned out over the rest of the site and commented on everything. /conservative and /the_donald mostly kept to their kind, unlike here where grad and ml comment on things outside of their instance, or .world will find themselves commenting on a post from those communities. So some tankie will delete your comments if you rub the community the wrong way.
So some tankie will delete your comments if you rub the community the wrong way.
The latest posts on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com are about LW mods power tripping, not tankies
Yeah but that one lemmy.ml mod telling someone that they wanted to shoot them and that they hope they die soon (https://hexbear.net/post/3706906/5518427) goes so very much further than merely removing their comments - although they did that as well.:-)
I am not absolving Lemmy.World here of any offenses, but the DEGREE of what is claimed there does not seem remotely close to being equal to me.
I’m not telling lemmy.ml have perfect records, far from that, but I was just saying that LW mods also have their issues. Both things can be true at the same time.
Oh yes, true.
Although in this case I’m not against the mod who was simply doing what the instance admins instructed (the mistake being to have removed comments rather than locking the post in the first place, as she tells the story anyway). But if you meant admins then yes.
“Tankies”, i.e. anyone left of center have been banned from reddit for the last decade. Weird that after that capitalism did its thing and made reddit bad …
Solid meme
LemmyWorld, you failed me son.
Haha more like lemmy.libs amirite?
Yeah, having been settled in awhile on lemmy before watching that April '23 reddit “exodus” over spez shutting down blackouts…the influx of allocishetmonoabled white dudes, who felt entitled to tell us we werern’t welcome, was…well it’d be funny if it weren’t such an embodiment of why UHC can get away with a 7,000,000:1 ratio as long as they did. Even when theyre “sticking it” to the CEO’s, they’re still played like a fiddle.
So fuck em. Refuse to allow them to move the overton window of the discussion rightward. Dont stand for having your take policed, and don’t self-censor to appease that stubborn demographic. Make them come to us.
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Thank you. I needed this meme in my life.
Lemmy is butter. Reddit is the margerin we had been consuming.
Both are bad for your health.
I prefer bacon, honestly.
What is bacon?
Old school forums?
I don’t know but it narwhals at midnight.
Processed meat is bad for your health too. It will give you cancer.
Bacon is less processed than any vegetable oil out there.
Bacon is just a small step forward. Eat salo!
I gotta say I’m pretty sick of this shit on lemmy as a whole.
I get that ml has a tankie problem. but is this what we’re gonna do now? just whenever something happens on an instance that’s it, everyone should move?
even if we did, where do we even go? even in this thread I see some people suggesting instances that other people already call sus.
i guess that confirms how leftist lemmy is. we just morphed the infighting to instance fighting.
even if we did, where do we even go?
https://lemm.ee or https://sh.itjust.works are popular choices
even in this thread I see some people suggesting instances that other people already call sus
Where?
That person hasn’t backed their claims.
A SJW admin even made a joke about them banning everyone.
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.world is ran by liberals and zionists not tankies.
Proof that they’re Zionists? Because they have been critical of Israel.
Here is one example:
Israel doesn’t spread propaganda online but “corrects lies”: https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/4009343
If you look at that mods post history and check the lowest rated comments there is much more.
Lying about ceasefire pre oct7: https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/12166651
Blaming Hamas instead of Israel: https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/6310176
This might be the worst one so far: https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/14127174
I’m glad Lemmy never has to worry about conservatives tearing the place apart.
We’ll do it all by ourselves!
Nobody hates leftists as much as leftists
So those of us who aren’t tech geniuses are just stuck?
I’m using Voyager and Lemmy basically works like Reddit did for me. I don’t know what instance I’m ever on or how to see things.
If you use email, you probably know whether it’s Gmail or Outlook.
And you are on Lemmy.world, by the way.
And to the outlook or email question, I’m using voyager
I signed up on the app and have only accessed it through this
You are indeed on Lemmy.world
