I’m told that if you mix in some bleach, it’ll “do a tremendous number” on the pathogens.
Am i seeing this right, that you can buy raw milk in grocery stores? What the fuck?
Raw milk gets bad way to fast in order to sell it in a grocery store.
I believe it has to be bought at the farm but they still do commercial packaging
Louis Pasteur is rolling in his grave, watching them raw milk drinkers.
Slow pastuerization kills the same amount of microbes as flash… without killing all the flavor of the milk.
Wonder if they tried heating the milk up to 63 degrees C for 30 mins before consumption?
Maybe that would help.
Nah just add a little ivermectin and you’re good!
Why would you say crazy, nonsense things like that?
Sorry, I am out of line.
But I do think it could catch on.
I wish they would irradiate it instead of boiling. Irradiation is completely safe and preserves the nutritional benefits. But the raw milk people are generally opposed to that, and irradiation has a PR problem. Sadness.
Pasteurization doesn’t boil the milk though…
UHT does, 140C for 2-5 seconds. Shelf-stable without refrigeration for up to nine months unless you open it.
Frankly speaking the difference between milk from cows with good diet vs. from cows fed protein slop is greater than between the modes of processing.
Still have PTSD from my mother feeding me raw milk – unlike in the US it’s legal here, also heavily regulated so it wasn’t a health risk microbiology-wise but boy am I sensitive to even slight off-tastes in milk because yes you’re going to interrupt the cooling chain and no that fridge doesn’t have 8C. Unless you’re a cheesemaker or such and it’s necessary for the process, stay away from raw.
And, no, it doesn’t have health benefits. Maybe if your kid doesn’t play outside in the mud and the milk is the only source of germs they’re exposed to, then it may help them to not develop autoimmune disorders. Be sane, choose mud over milk.
Only time I’ve had raw milk was when I was a kid and visited farming friends, since they had a pitcher in the fridge from that days milking. They used it in cooking usually, but it wasn’t that bad to drink.
The laws regarding cow and milk health is way different in Sweden that most other countries though, very strict routines around testing. We can eat raw eggs from the store.
Eggs and birds:
You know that exact kind of thing is why you’re known as arrogant swots all over Europe, don’t you? Do you google whether Denmark has safe tap water before going on ølviking?
If I’m in Denmark to drink beer I take the custom where I am. If the tap water isn’t good, I drink something else.
In my town we had a huge outbreak of cryptosporidium which poisoned all tap water in the city, so no matter regulations no place is guaranteed safe. That’s why you test stuff. If anyone find unhealthy results you need to contain, treat and inform to minimize damage and exposure risk
The reason we are known as arrogant swots is probably not our husbandry rules but our foreign policies that can be naive or straight up delusional (such as thinking chat control is net positive).
I don’t really know though since I have no possibility to leave my farm to travel, neither in time or monetary capabilities
What nutritional benefits does it preserve exactly?
Does it taste different? Of raw milk tastes different than pasteurized milk than radiated milk might taste different too.
It taste differently and it usually hasnt gone through the separation of cream from the milk so it has high fat content and sometimes fat drops on the surface
I also imagine on the company side it’s probably more expensive to do that rather than just making it hot enough.
I’m cool with idiots who don’t know any better getting what’s coming to them… but I’m not really cool with them sneezing on the same door handles I turn.
Except the same people end up serving it to their kids
Weird. I thought they were anti-abortion.
Fun fact:
The dairy was fined in 2023 for a Salmonella outbreak and is very militantly anti-government.
The why seems pretty clear.
They really should start selling it and marketing it as never frozen fresh. It’ll be even more effective that way once its legal nationwide.
I bet the solution is so fast, it’s past your eyes before you know it.
Edit: for anybody who is hearing impaired.
Past-yer-eyes milk. Nice.
Sounds like something a guy named Louie would think of.
Louie CK? Funny guy, weird shaped penis.
idk, seems like an idea that should be sent out to pasture.
Hmm, a sign language pun. Interesting!
Some relatively unknown French microbiologist is rolling in his grave right now.
“LOUIS PASTEUR WAS A FASCIST IN LINE WITH THE NEW WORLD ORDER!” - Big D
Sacre Bleu!
The more deadly pseudoscience that spreads the fewer conservatives there are in America, so I can’t say I mind stuff like this too much.
I mind it. In isolation it would be fine, but with their ignorance, these types punish and harm their families, mainly their children, who would otherwise just grow up to cut contact with them anyway, long as they didn’t end up sharing their views. Plus when it’s disease, they just have to walk near a person who isn’t another conservative to spread it. As we learned from covid, the best person to be wearing the mask is the sick one, and they don’t play along.
And they will blame it on someone else causing them to become sick like 5G or wifi
Just have a spoon of pesticides after drinking that pure natural raw milk. If it’s good for the corn it’s good for you.
Don’t forget to sun your taint. I hear that cures all sorts of things
A sun-goatse of sorts.
Throw in some powerful antibiotics too … if it’s good for the cow, it’s good for you
A bit of roundup and horse paste, the MAGA cure-all.
So, I don’t really understand the science, but my son is only able to drink raw milk. When he drinks normal milk, he has terrible stomach aches and mad diarrhea. When he drinks raw milk, it’s all rainbows and butterflies. For reference, he’s 3 and has been drinking the raw milk for around a year and a half. Also, the rest of the family had no issues drinking pasteurized milk. Maybe somebody smarter than me could explain why this is?
Should totally stop feeding him raw milk, get those lactose-free milk instead.
I actually think we may have tried lactaid as well, with a similar reaction. My wife would remember for sure.
You should give oat milk a try (or soy/almond, but oat tastes the best imo)
This might be helpful, or it might be unrelated.
Recently, I made mozzarella from scratch. In order to do that, I needed some milk that wasn’t homogenised. Homogenisation is the process of breaking up the fat globules within milk into smaller droplets so they’re more evenly dispersed throughout the liquid, meaning there won’t be a fatty layer that separates out when you leave the milk to stand.
Most milk that you buy at the supermarket would be both homogenised and pasteurised. I learned that pasteurised milk could work for cheese, depending on the specific temperature the milk was heated to during pasteurisation (because the required minimum temperature for pasteurization is below the temperature that causes issues for mozzarella, but some brands pasteurise at a higher temperature. Unfortunately most brands don’t say what temperature they pasteurise at, but I got lucky with the first one I tried). That part’s not especially relevant to you and is mostly cheese related
The thing I wanted to suggest, out of scientific curiosity more than helpfulness, is that I wonder how your son would do with pasteurised, non-homogenised milk — perhaps it’s the homogenisation that’s causing the problem, rather than the pasteurisation. If you do try this, I’d be interested to hear back how things go; I haven’t heard of anyone having issues like this before
Oh, interesting. I’ll have to look into where to find that.
Have the rest of the family conduct a double-blind test. In other words, neither you nor the child now which is which.
at least CVD isn’t contagious
Every new infection is a new dice roll for a human-human infection mutation
Low chance, but let’s hope we don’t get XCOM’d
Cardiovascular disease is never going to be contagious, except through socially transmitted values that say it is okay to commit atrocity against cattle.
Ah, sorry. Was still at the bird flu from op
*yet
