A few Zionist colleagues of mine at the University of Sydney are currently trying to take me and fellow staff member John Keane to the Human Rights Commission for racial vilification, because we have dared to oppose this genocide. It’s classic ‘lawfare’, and it’s based on the baseless and absurd argument that when we say ‘Zionists’, we actually – so they tell us – mean ‘Jews’. We are, they claim, toxic antisemites.
If that’s what they thought, they could have come to my office at the university to talk about it. I would have bought them coffee, and made it clear just how far from the truth this is. Instead, they went direct to the Human Rights Commission, making a complaint that miraculously turned up on the front page of The Australian before it had even been acknowledged by the AHRC itself.
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Mate, you’re fucked in the head.
The actual experts in this area disagree with you.
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I am answering here assuming you are commenting on good faith. Please give me the same courtesy.
The fact is that the Israeli government chose to respond to actions of a few dozen people by occupying a nation and routinely killing masses of civilians including the bombing of hospitals and schools.
The initial attacks were abhorrent and arguably justified a strong response against the perpetrators, it is difficult for many of us to understand how you can justify punishing an entire nation for the actions of a few dozen people, it is this that draws claims of genocide
The civilian death toll in Gaza is now estimated at more than 180,000. Any argument that this is a proportionate and appropriate response must be either ignorant or in bad faith.
I am happy to respond if you disagree or want to challenge my response here.
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Meanwhile, back in the real world @Seagoon_
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-21/icc-issues-arrest-warrant-for-benjamin-netanyahu/104633044
The fact is that the vast majority of death, destruction and terror in the region have been inflicted by Israel and its Zionist progenitors. Zionists were the original middle-east terrorists and remain the most depraved.
@Joshi
#Zionism
#Palestine
#Israel
#genocide
#WarCrimes
#CrimesAgainstHumanity
#terrorism
Again. I am answering in good faith assuming you will do the same.
I am perfectly willing to concede that I may have understated the size of the initial attacks and for the sake of argument I will concede your claim that there are 10s of thousands of Hamas terrorists in Gaza.
The issue at stake here is that at least 180,000 civilians have been killed to say nothing of the injuries and other traumas. The IDF has deliberately targeted civilian populations who had nothing to do with the attacks.
Again, I may not be opposed to a proportionate response but to killing hundreds of thousands in response to what you claim was a crime of 6000 people is not proportionate, it is brutal and unnecessary and likely to be counterproductive to any hopes of reducing violence from either side in the future.
Do you have a position on this specially? Do you deny the death toll, or do you assume that all 180,000 killed were terrorists?
I am genuinely interested in your response.
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Certainly there is a justification for a strong response against Hamas. What you need to grapple with is that the response has been against the entire Palestinian population and has caused an enormous death toll of civilian non-combatants.
If I may take your example of the Taliban, a clearly reprehensible organisation. It would not be appropriate for opponents of the Taliban to indiscriminately attack the civilian population of Afghanistan in much the same way that it is not appropriate for the IDF to target the civilian population of Palestine using the crimes of Hamas as justification. Indeed during the Afghanistan war the US and allies took precautions to target fighters and minimise civilian deaths and were rightly criticised when they failed.
Over 10 years of the War in Afghanistan the civilian death toll in Afghanistan was most years less than 4000, in Palestine the civilian death toll is 40 times that in 1 year.
There is no double standard here, no one is saying Israel shouldn’t have responded in a proportionate way to the initial Hamas attacks but what Israel is doing is targeting the civilian population in response to the (admittedly reprehensible) actions of, yes, a few dozen people.
I am genuinely interested in hearing your response here, please don’t take this as a personal attack but I hope you understand my perspective here.
It is impossible to interpret this in good faith. The German government has obvious conflicts and should not be considered representative of international law. It’s as arbitrary as saying “Iran says the IDF eats babies”.
The UN: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israels-warfare-methods-gaza-consistent-genocide
The ICJ: https://www.icj-cij.org/case/192
This instance is a joke. It’s apparently worse to insult someone like the above poster than to cover for an occupied people being systematically exterminated. Civility politics is a brain disease, it is substance not style that matters.
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Alrighty there champ, are you sure you really wanna do the whole “they don’t have enough ovens” bit? Jfc, it’s blatantly obvious that Benny from Cheltenham’s plan is to forcibly remove the Palestinian population from Gaza and parts of the West Bank to continue pursuing the Israeli state’s settler colonialist aims. Y’know, genocide.
you think total Palestinian casualties are less than 7 thousand?
I guess they’re faking starving to death.
Yes a genocide you Zionist.