Summary

Asian American groups are preparing for potential deportations of undocumented Chinese nationals, particularly military-age men, under Trump’s proposed immigration policies.

Sources indicate Chinese nationals may be prioritized due to alleged national security concerns, reflecting broader anti-China sentiment.

Community organizations are creating multilingual resources, coordinating legal support, and educating families on their rights.

Trump’s rhetoric ties Chinese immigrants to fears of espionage, intensifying anxieties.

Advocates highlight the historical targeting of minority groups during national security crises and warn of significant impacts on vulnerable communities, urging solidarity and swift action.

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    For the white folk like my family that are out there wondering why so many people are afraid: here it is.

    You don’t have to be an illegal immigrant to get caught up in this. If you’re an American citizen who is arrested and thrown in a camp without access to communications or legal counsel, how can you prove you’re a citizen? You’ll end up being in line at a deportation hearing, get 30 seconds in front of a judge, and find yourself deported because you didn’t have the correct documentation on your body.

    Or if you did and the immigration gestapo “lost” it.

    I’m so white that even sunburnt I still look like a ghost, so I’m safe. But that shouldn’t be what protects me from illegal deportation.

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      I’m so white that even sunburnt I still look like a ghost, so I’m safe. But that shouldn’t be what protects me from illegal deportation.

      I got sunburnt taking out the trash so I’m in the same boat as you.

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    Ok, so now if you are Asian in addition to being even vaguely brown, you will at all times need to carry papers showing you are authorized to be here. You will be subject to being stopped and questioned and should you fail to produce your papers you may be detained, possibly for quite some time, until YOU can prove you are authorized to be here. Even if you are here legally your status may be revoked and you will be ejected from the country, probably at your own expense. No doubt in that case anything you own here in the US will be confiscated.

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      No doubt in that case anything you own here in the US will be confiscated.

      Thanks to asset forfeiture, those objects are guilty in the furtherance of a crime and will have to defend themselves in court.

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    particularly military-age men

    And give China more people to wage war against America with? Sounds like a great plan! (/s obviously)

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      Indeed. The safest course of action is naturally to put them in concentration camps to avoid that possibility (/s as well).

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    Just to add it to the MOUNTAIN of IToldYaSo I am saving up. If you are a LEGAL immigrant, make plans, you might become illegal over night. These people are insane and vile, protect yourself.

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    That makes sense. Asians don’t even seem to be in conversation on racial issues. I could see them slipping this under the radar.

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    The British thought immigrants would be deported after the Brexit too. But then they quickly realized they form the backbone of some of the critical sectors like hospitality, logistics, construction etc. So they quietly pretended like nothing ever happened.

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      They thought that Brext would deport Pakistan people, leaving the French. Instead, it deported French and left a Pakistan person as the PM.

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      Here in the US, undocumented immigrants form the backbone of food production (agriculture and meat processing) and restaurants, such that mass deportations would cause unimaginable inflation in food prices. I want to think that means the Republicans won’t actually do it, but I thought they wouldn’t actually overturn Roe v. Wade either.

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      Yeah, and the Brexit vote fucked us. Being in the EU was great. Anyone could see that leaving wasn’t going to make much difference to immigration.

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        It made some difference, but the racists really self-owned on that one by making the country outwardly hostile to generally white EU migrants.

        This was quickly followed by an uptick in not white, non EU migrants that the casual racist abhors.

        Particularly evident in NHS recruitment with EU recruits stagnating and African/Asian recruits increasing.

        Aside from that, the vote has pretty much fucked us all for a couple of generations minimum. Put to vote, I would gladly rejoin, even at the expense of the Pound. We’ll never see the almost 2:1 buying power against the Dollar ever again anyway.

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          We’ll never see the almost 2:1 buying power against the Dollar ever again anyway.

          You have every reason to be optimistic here as it remains to be seen what Trump will do to the dollar.

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    Also to anyone saying “well how can they deport a citizen when the other country won’t take them since they’re not one of their citizens?”

    That’s the point…. They’ll stay locked up in internment camps because the US “is looking into their citizenship status” and they’ll stay there for an indefinite time.

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    My dad remarried a China-nese lady after my mom passed away. He voted for Trump in 2020 and 2024. I love this lady like my own mom, but the leopard is coming in to eat soon.

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      Doesn’t that mean she is at least a legal resident, if not a US citizen? Either way, if she’s married to a US citizen then she isn’t undocumented.

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        if she’s married to a US citizen then she isn’t undocumented

        Untrue. It depends on how long you were out of status and what sort of status you had in the first place. If you never had a visa in the first place you really are shit out of luck and can only apply for a green card after you self deport (which may get you a 10 year ban on reentry after you so it or if you’ve entered the country illegally more than once you get a lifetime ban with no possibility of appeal even if you’re married to an American citizen and have American citizen children with them).

        https://www.boundless.com/faqs/overstayed-visa-marriage-consequences/

        https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/guides/A2en.pdf

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          You’re splitting hairs. If she’s legally married to an American citizen (and isn’t an agent of a foreign government, and hasn’t been convicted of treason, etc), AND she goes through the legal process of gaining citizenship, then she’s a legal citizen.

          Yes, there are technicalities and requirements. But gaining US citizenship through marriage is a very easy process compared to the other routes.

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            You consider a 10 year ban for getting a green card after you get married to be an easy process? Do you believe that most would decide to split their family up for 10 years vs remaining undocumented? You can’t become a citizen until you get a green card and I’ve layed out for you just the hard getting a green card is for someone undocumented. You can’t just get married and become a citizen. Even DACA recipients, who were brought here without their particular consent: if they get married to a citizen over 6 months after they turn 18 they’re going to be banned from re-entry for 3-10 years after they leave. And everyone who’s in the country who wasnt inspected on arrival(meaning they had a visa) cannot receive a green card without leaving first. Marriage is no panacea for the undocumented. For most of them, it’s quite useless.

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              I’m not sure what 10 year ban you’re talking about, but I personally know someone who married a foreign citizen, and she got US citizenship very quickly.

              Can you give me more details about this 10 year ban? If almost sounds like you’re talking about people being ineligible for citizenship because they’re undocumented citizens.

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                Yes, that’s what I’m taking about. If you marry someone who is undocumented in the United States they’re ineligible. They must self deport and depending on how many months they were undocumented they get a 3 or 10 year ban. You said if they got married they would not be undocumented but that’s far from the case.

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                  OK, that clears it up. I didn’t realize this was controversial though, seems like there is bipartisan support to deny citizenship over things like felony convictions.

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    Noteworthy, Trump’s support from Asian American voters grew 5 points to 39% in 2024.

    The AsiansMAGA PAC raised $77,063.89 for Trump, outspending some other Asian American PACs but admittedly not as much as the AAPI.

    Not saying they deserve it or anything, but there certainly will be some leopards eating the faces among them.

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      It’s worth mentioning that there should be some distinction between first and second+ generation immigrants. Often even amongst each other there is division so those who support Trump may not have to worry about being deported.

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        You are making the mistaken assumption that the brute squad will bother to differentiate between them. How many second+ generation immigrants carry around proof of citizenship, anyway? They can be detained just like anyone else who doesn’t look right.

        (And it’s super easy to carry that now, the passport card is cheap, fits in your wallet, and is a good first line of defense against being disappeared.)

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      That anti-blackness the majority of Asian residents like to indulge in is biting them in the ass now.

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    How likely do y’all think that I as a US Citizen with Chinese ancestry is gonna get deported.

    Becausing looking back in history, e.g the Chinese Exclusion Act, it doesn’t give me too much hope.

    Welp out of one dicatorship into another 🤷‍♂️

    Oh the situation is even more messed up considering the fact that in Chinese law, citizenship is automatically revoked when you obtain foreign citizenship. Guess I could end up stateless, in a CCP dictatorship.

    Fuck this world.

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        I was curious so when I was in high school I once asked my classmates if they hear an accent when I speak, they said they don’t hear an accent. I guess I pass? 🤷‍♂️

        I’m in Philly, it should be fine. (I hope)

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      My bff and her brother were born here, but I’m extremely worried for them. A couple years ago DARPA approached her brother for the work he did on drone technology in college. I know her parents cut ties with their families in China when they moved here several decades ago, but that doesn’t seem like enough to keep them from being harassed at minimum.

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    That’s a lot of Asian faces (39%) for these leopard to eat.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if they try to strip Asian American citizens, naturalized or natural born, of their citizenship either.

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        Yeah it does suck but unfortunately that’s what Americans voted for.

        I’m not exactly looking forward to more racism and more being the perpetual foreigner but c’est la vie, it’s what idiot America voted for.

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      Jesus Christ, every thread about deportations has some moron talking about leopards.

      Undocumented immigrants can’t vote. I hate to take away whatever satisfaction you’re getting from human suffering here, but it is categorically not “leopards eating faces”.

      Is that 39% the percentage of Asian Americans who voted for Trump? I bet most of those are rich enough that they don’t have to worry. What percentage of your demographic voted Republican? Do you deserve to be punished for them?

      The world isn’t just and these people aren’t getting what they deserve. Put this energy into volunteering for organizations trying to help people. We have to stick together to get through the next four years.

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        Project 2025 includes doing away with naturalization, and I believe might even go as far as revoking citizenship from previously naturalized citizens (only when it suits them, of course).

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        Key word being current. Remember that Republicans will control all three branches of government, including both houses of Congress.

        Of course that assumes they follow the law at all.

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        Isn’t it against international law to make someone stateless?

        (Granted, it’s not like they’d care about legality)

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            That reminds me of the Hague Invasion Act:

            The American Service-Members’ Protection Act, known informally as The Hague Invasion Act, is a United States federal law described as “a bill to protect United States military personnel and other elected and appointed officials of the United States government against criminal prosecution by an international criminal court to which the United States is not party”.

            The Act gives the president power to use “all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court”.

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    During the 1930s when there was a mass Mexican deportation, there were a lot of US citizens rounded up and deported. Don’t trust these guys will not make the same mistake. Of course, a decade later, Mexicans streamed across the border to mind farms and ranches while US manpower was in WWII. They kinda helped win the war by keeping the nation and it’s troops fed.