• TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
    209·
    10 days ago

    >Not a country

    >Donald Trump has repeatedly spoken badly about and deliberately mistreated Puerto Rico

    >Donald Trump also routinely speaks extremely badly about the country Puerto Rico is in

    I’m glad he’s changed his mind at the literal last minute, but it baffles me every day how ignorant people can be.

    Petition to restart !leopardsatemyface@lemmy.world, by the way.

    • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
      49·
      10 days ago

      Petition to restart !leopardsatemyface@lemmy.world, by the way.

      Every time I make the mistake of visiting that sub, I want to smack the mod who locked it. I don’t even know if his grievances were legit, but clearly the only people he’s hurting are the folks who would like to post to the sub.

      Edit: Are .world Admins aware? Do they have a position on the situation? Do they give a crap? Anyone know?

      • jimothy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        6·
        10 days ago

        Here’s the beautiful thing about Lemmy and the Fediverse as the whole: Anyone could be a pioneer and create another leopardatemyface community–even in another instance different from lemmy.world. I saw the mod’s explanation of locking this community and I think it’s a legitimate reason cuz many of us running away from Reddit at least wants something different from the userbase and moderating culture there and .world instance failed to provide it.

        Also, I think the .world Admins are aware, and that they have a position on the situation, and most likely they don’t give a crap. That’s why like I said, any dissenting users could create yet another similar community and try to lure others in to subscribe to it.

        • Serinus@lemmy.world
          7·
          10 days ago

          most likely they don’t give a crap.

          We do, a little. But we also can’t manually curate the entire instance. For things like this, it really helps if someone comes and talks to us, especially if they’re willing to volunteer.

          I don’t think that was a legitimate reason to lock the sub. Often, when you disagree with someone, you can use words instead of mod/admin tools. And that mod created an obvious strawman to rage against. They wanted much heavier moderation than we typically do, and I don’t think we’re extremely light on moderation.

          • Lemmy.World Community Team (yeah, it’s a little weird to sign a comment, but this is also my personal account)
      • Serinus@lemmy.world
        3·
        10 days ago

        Not every problem needs to be solved with mod/admin tools. Absolutely nobody said rape was okay.

        “Rape is less severe than normal” is not such a dangerous opinion that mods/admins need to get involved. If you are offended and/or disagree, that’s what your words are for.

        I encourage mods to use words instead of mod tools whenever possible.

        • Lemmy.World Community Team
    • i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca
      11·
      10 days ago

      Maybe he just ran out of the paper towels Trump threw at him the last time he was in PR. Now he had a spill to clean up and he’s finally mad.

    • danc4498@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      10 days ago

      Don’t Trump call America a garbage can like a couple days before this guy made this joke? It seemed like just an extension of what Trump already said.

      • auzy@lemmy.world
        2·
        10 days ago

        Yep.

        That’s how dictators work

        They’ll shit on top of the country and try a self fulfilling prophecy . Over time, people will believe it. They’ll create a negative mindset

        Then when they’re elected they’ll do the opposite. Their supporters will simply change their mindset.

      • ZeroCool@slrpnk.net
        65·
        10 days ago

        Cuban expats that are vehemently anti communist.

        And who have apparently assimilated so well into US society that they have no idea what communism actually is anymore. A democrat vote is still miles away from anything even remotely resembling communism.

        • Croquette@sh.itjust.works
          15·
          10 days ago

          When I was a teenager that started follow the politics of the US, I was extremely confused about the Republicans calling the left liberals, because our liberals were center-right.

          It took me a few years to stumble upon the Overton window (without using that name at that time).

          • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
            7·
            10 days ago

            It’s only loosely connected with the Overton window, they just don’t know what the actual word means so it means “Democrat” to them.

        • AA5B@lemmy.world
          4·
          10 days ago

          Everyone knows Republicans are better for business. Just ask Donald Trump, he’ll tell you

    • ECB@feddit.org
      12·
      10 days ago

      Another reason is that Hispanics (like many minorities) are on average both more religious and more socially conservative than the general population.

    • Snowclone@lemmy.world
      8·
      10 days ago

      My dad was African Caribbean with a heavy accent who got citizenship after decades in the US. At times, legal, at time illegal, as the system is quite intentionally broken. After ALL that experience, being repeatedly treated with racist attacks by cops, bank tellers, and who knows how many else, that’s just was I was around to see happen. Anyway, he was VERY pro-trump. Mostly because he was juvenile, and liked he could say a few lines of whatever Trump was saying and it would piss everyone off. He just loved it.

      • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
        6·
        10 days ago

        I’m convinced that most of what they say is to simply piss people off. Once someone is in a negative space long enough, they start to crave that attention and anger as their new norm.

        Your dad went through a hell of a gambit to be here.

    • AA5B@lemmy.world
      3·
      10 days ago

      I know a surprising number of immigrants of various flavors, who are proud of overcoming all the obstacles to build a better, successful life for themselves and their families. They object to other immigrants “getting special favors”, “not following the rules”, “getting it easy”. Some of it is justified pride in their accomplishments but I can’t help but believe they are misinformed about attempted reforms, just like many other conservatives

  • ϻеƌųʂɑ@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    66·
    10 days ago
    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller
  • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    46·
    10 days ago

    I know of a handful of other Latin Americans who still want to vote for the fucker. They can’t articulate why they’d vote for him other than a vague economic reason, even after reminding them of all the heinous shit he spews about people who don’t look like him.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
      10·
      10 days ago

      There is quite a lot to say about the neoliberal sabotage of American manufacturing capability, but the fact that people think conservatives have any interest in making those vanished jobs both come back and be worth having is stupifying.

  • auzy@lemmy.world
    31·
    10 days ago

    “Nicky jam is hot”. The fact that Trump didn’t even bother to know about him when thinking he was a female onstage I’m guessing would have been the first red flag for him

  • AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world
    19·
    10 days ago

    We’ve been trying to tell you. When he gets your vote and gets into office, he’s not going to give a shit about you. Listen to the people who already got fucked the last time he was president.

      • mc900ftJesus@lemy.lol
        6·
        10 days ago

        Because no one calls where they live a nation? Country is the generic people term for place you live, we don’t care about the legal distinctions and specifications.

        • Anti-Face Weapon@lemmy.world
          6·
          10 days ago

          It’s less of a legal distinction and more of a definition thing. He is objectively using the wrong word.

          It would not be incorrect to refer to the people of Puerto Ricans as a nation by the definition of the word. The word nation does not refer to a place but a group of people.

          • Hawke@lemmy.world
            3·
            10 days ago

            Both words refer to both concepts.

            country

            1. A nation or state.
            2. The territory of a nation or state; land.
            3. The people of a nation or state; populace.

            nation

            1. A relatively large group of people organized under a single, usually independent government; a country.
            2. The territory occupied by such a group of people.
            3. The government of a sovereign state.
              • Hawke@lemmy.world
                2·
                9 days ago

                Yes but my point is that he’s not using the wrong word.

                Edit: also Kurdistan exists

                • Anti-Face Weapon@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  9 days ago

                  Kurdistan doesn’t really have a central government like that, nor fixed or well defined borders. Keep in mind that the concept of a “Nation State” is really only a couple hundred years old.

                  If that counterexample doesn’t satisfy you, then Somalia should. It is a country without a functioning government, which has two nations inside of them of the northern and southern Somalians which are completely different, and neither of which have any sort of unifying government.

  • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
    13·
    10 days ago

    I used to endorse trump, but then I realized that I actually never endorsed him because I have a fucking working brain and I’m not a stupid 'murican.

  • DandomRude@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    10 days ago

    I’m sorry to say that, but I think that moronic statement is pretty much the US in a nutshell. I mean Trump is one of just two presidential candidates…and it seems to be a close election.