Not to say that everyone that votes for Trump is a Nazi, but we do know who the Nazis are voting for.

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    2 months ago

    No, I’d say it’s exactly what we deserve.

    Imagine if we had to vote for a national ice cream flavor. It would probably end up being pretty unpalatable for most people, but it’s the only one we can get even a plurality of people to vote for.

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          2 months ago

          With anarchy you have to get yourself that flavor and make everyone else eat it too. It would still be easier to do in a democracy.

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              2 months ago

              It is based on your analogy. There wouldn’t be a national ice cream flavor in a stateless society definitionally speaking.

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                2 months ago

                Yes, but that doesn’t mean everyone gets what I want. It means I find my tiny group of teaberry enjoyers and we make our own teaberry ice cream because that’s what we like.

                Democracy is everyone taking a vote and me and my comrades not getting teaberry ever because there’s not enough of us to have any power.

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                  2 months ago

                  No, there can only be one ice cream flavor considered to represent the group as whole in you analogy for it to even be internally consistent. Making other people eat wasn’t the best phrasing, it’s more making other people decide it’s their favorite which is even harder.

                  Your group of teaberry enjoyers assumes that in the absence of the state your group could determine what everyone’s preferred ice cream is, not which ice cream they could actually eat. Which ice cream could be consumed by individuals or groups was never the question at hand. Instead we are asking what is considered the larger group’s preferred choice as whole which is still an open question in the absence of the state. And undoubtedly best determined by the majority of people in the absence of an ice cream that satisfies everyone.

                  You can already enjoy whatever ice cream you want currently. Deciding what everyone’s favorite or preferred option is not a power suddenly invested in anyone in the absence of a state. In a sense no ice cream enjoyer is an island.

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                    2 months ago

                    No, there can only be one ice cream flavor considered to represent the group as whole in you analogy for it to even be internally consistent.

                    Not if I’m describing anarchy. Rather than organization coming from above, people are free to self-organize. Vanilla people can live with other vanilla people. Teaberry freaks like me can head to the hills and have teaberry.

                    The state is why I’m forced choose between freezer-burnt Dollar General vanilla-flavored refrigerated dairy byproduct and a literal frozen turd.

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        2 months ago

        “Moose” polls poorly outside of Maine and Minnesota. “Tracks” alienates truckers who are a significant union.

        Please try again.