• DdCno1@beehaw.org
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          27 days ago

          It’s worth it for the story alone (both main games since the reboot). Such a wild collection of outrageous twists and turns, but with characters that you actually care about. They managed to write a main protagonist who - in between eviscerating Nazi mechas and blowing up secret bases while using improbable tech - is actually an emotionally vulnerable human being. This is such a stroke of genius that suddenly makes the entire scenario so much more believable and the story so much more impactful, because he and many of the other characters feel like real human beings, despite the almost exuberant embracing of clichés (only to then tear them up). It’s still campy as all hell, but it somehow works. I don’t think I’ve ever seen games juggle so many different balls without dropping any of them. Even if you don’t care about any of that, the shooting alone is second only to the recent DOOM reboots.

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    29 days ago

    Murder?

    I think not. Murder is a crime. And it’s bad. (crime doesn’t necessarily mean bad, see Robin Hood for more details)

    Nazis don’t count, all you’re doing is cleaning up the trash.

    You can’t murder a nazi. You can certainly kill them though.

    It’s an important distinction, in my opinion.

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      The scariest thing about Nazis is that they’re human and even pretty smart sometimes. To reiterate what others are saying: dehumanization leaves you in a blind spot for the humans around you who can silently undergo vast transformations from people you thought you loved into Nazis. They throw away their humanity yes, but they had to be human to throw it away. Dehumanization is also how the process of becoming a Nazi starts. Don’t even mirror it in jest, try on radical empathy and face the truth: humans are horrifically complex. Nazis are unfortunately humans.

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        Nazis are incredibly mechanical honestly. They lose empathy and then others become mearly disposable objects. You might commit murder just like you would throw away a plastic bag. There is a totally absence of care which leads you to inflict terrible things to others.

        I also doubt how many actual Nazis there are. It is often thrown around which leads it to lose the horrible meaning. I’ve seen people shout Nazis over much less deadly things. Don’t confuse systematic mass murder with someone having a questionable character. They can be a terrible human but they haven’t committed the level of crimes as mass murder of millions. The level of death and suffering caused by the holocaust is not a joke and certainty not something to use when your upset.

        Sorry for the rant I just needed to get that off my chest. I’m not really addressing anyone in particular.

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    29 days ago

    [off topic]

    One of the biggest mind fuck novels I ever read was "The Iron Dream’ by Norman Spinrad.

    On one level it’s a ‘hero’s journey’ story about an exiled prince who returns to his homeland and defeats a bunch of evil mind controlling wizards. Lots of excitement and adventure and terrific battles.

    The fucked up part is that it’s the last novel Adolph Hitler wrote after migrating to America in 1921.

    Hitler was a popular illustrator who eventually felt confident enough to start writing in English. He was a popular figure at conventions and had a huge fandom.

    https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-iron-dream-norman-spinrad/7751155?ean=9781490439457

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      29 days ago

      I’m very confused, but I have to go into work. Can someone summarize for my lazy ass what the fuck is going on here?

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        From wiki

        The Iron Dream is a metafictional 1972 alternate history novel by American author Norman Spinrad. The book has a nested narrative that tells a story within a story. On the surface, the novel presents a post-apocalyptic adventure tale entitled Lord of the Swastika, written by an alternate-history Adolf Hitler shortly before his death in 1953. In this timeline, Hitler emigrated from Germany to the United States in 1919 after the Great War, and used his modest artistic skills to become first a pulp science fiction illustrator and later a successful writer, telling lurid, purple-prosed, pro-fascism stories under a thin science fiction veneer. The nested narrative is followed by a faux scholarly analysis by a fictional literary critic, Homer Whipple, which is said to have been written in 1959.

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    28 days ago

    Germany be like, “Nazi symbols, NEIN!”, showing it is totally not missing the point, specially given whom they support.

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      There are no more restrictions on Nazi symbols in videogames, except that glorifying Nazism remains illegal regardless of the medium, of course.