• Chloé 🥕English
    5·
    2 months ago

    edit: sorry for my answers, i was being an ass

    i still stand by the fact that making “lol haha i’m illegal in X countries lmao” jokes is insensitive and shitty, but my language was unnecessarily edgy and abrasive.

    there is much to criticize about white queerness, but that’s not what i did

    screenshots (with alt text) of the thread below before i deleted my comments so what i said doesn't just go forgotten

    Screenshot of a comment thread: carotte: nah, white gays who brag about being a criminal in 72 countries while not facing much of that persecution themselves can fuck off; Techranger@infosec.pub: If there are out gays who don't face much or any persecution, I would call that a victory for the cause worth celebrating! Remember Alan Turing. Remember Harvey Milk. Both of them were white gays who paid dearly for having the audacity to be themselves. Racism is unbecoming. It's divisive. I think it's important to show solidarity to all humans struggling to be themselves under oppressive systems.; carotte: absolutely, but what im criticizing here are the (often young) white queers who didn't grow up under that oppressive system appropriating the pain of others to feel edgy and cool. that's the problem, that's what this meme is doing; Gormadt (who is the OP): When I was young, and discovering myself, my existence was illegal in my area and queer people in my area were still heavily persecuted. I won't go into details about the terrible things I've seen and experienced as I'm sure nobody here wants to hear it. Laughing not to cry and all that you know? Edit: I'm also not a fan of how you brought (and doubled down) on trying to make it a race thing.; carotte: im "making it a race thing" because it's just factual that white queers face way less oppression than queer BIPOC. and it's mostly white queers making these edgy jokes. im sorry for having assumed you were one of them, though. that was shitty and I apologize Screenshot of a comment thread: carotte: nah, white gays who brag about being a criminal in 72 countries while not facing much of that persecution themselves can fuck off; Ifera@lemmy.world: Because no white queers are being raped, abused and murdered in conversion camps. Honestly, people like you who keep trying to segregate people with a mix of Oppression Olympics, "Reverse, punching up Racism" (Spoiler alert, that is just racism), and gatekeeping just to paint yourselves as poor, pearl-clutching victims. I hope some day you grow up and develop some kindness, people like you give us queers a bad rep. If you want to help people, do positive things and help, instead of just whining with a "You can't sit with us, you're the wrong color" sign.; carotte: im not saying there are no white queers who face oppression, don't twist my words. and im not trying to paint myself as a victim. im a white and I know my place; Ifera@lemmy.world: How fancy, white savior complex, telling me what I should be offended about, and trying to normalize silencing voices with the age old line of "knowing their place".; carotte: when I talk about "knowing your place" i say this about myself and other whites, if you're not white this doesn't apply to you and you have every right to speak up. anyways, im gonna practice what i peach and shut up now. sorry for wasting your time

    • Techranger@infosec.pub
      13·
      2 months ago

      If there are out gays who don’t face much or any persecution, I would call that a victory for the cause worth celebrating! Remember Alan Turing. Remember Harvey Milk. Both of them were white gays who paid dearly for having the audacity to be themselves. Racism is unbecoming. It’s divisive. I think it’s important to show solidarity to all humans struggling to be themselves under oppressive systems.

        • GormadtOP
          8·
          2 months ago

          When I was young and discovering myself, my existence was illegal in my area and queer people in my area were still heavily persecuted.

          I won’t go into details about the terrible things I’ve seen and experienced as I’m sure nobody here wants to hear it.

          Laughing not to cry and all that you know?

          Edit: I’m also not a fan of how you brought (and doubled down) on trying to make it a race thing.

    • Ifera@lemmy.world
      5·
      2 months ago

      Because no white queers are being raped, abused and murdered in conversion camps. Honestly, people like you who keep trying to segregate people with a mix of Oppression Olympics, “Reverse, punching up Racism”(Spoiler alert, that is just racism), and gatekeeping just to paint yourselves as poor, pearl-clutching victims.

      I hope some day you grow up and develop some kindness, people like you give us queers a bad rep. If you want to help people, do positive things and help, instead of just whining with a “You can’t sit with us, you’re the wrong color” sign.

        • Ifera@lemmy.world
          2·
          2 months ago

          How fancy, white savior complex, telling me what I should be offended about, and trying to normalize silencing voices with the age old line of “knowing their place”.