• Cleggory@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    Not everyone is capable of comprehending a nuanced and complex solution.

    You offer no evidence of any capacity to question the contrivance of a despicable “problem.”

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      25 days ago

      “I don’t have any moral responsibility because I believe the trolley shouldn’t exist in the first place.” Totally nuanced and not completely missing the point of the analogy at all. If only everyone knew we could just magically make the trolley disappear we could have skipped over the decades of philosophy written about the trolley problem because the solution is so easy!

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        I mean you said those words, no need to beat yourself up cause you have a little straw on your face.

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          What are you, 5? “I know you are but what am I?”

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            You quoted yourself, then attacked the strawman with all you had.

            You then expect me to defend your made up straw argument, failed.

            Since you seem to need it, I’ve explained it to you like a 5 year old.

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              Yes, it’s totally a strawman. You definitely don’t think that we should not pull the lever and instead question why the trolley exists. That’s definitely not what your original comment said. Because those two are mutually exclusive anyway. We can only ever do one thing, like question the existence of the trolley or pull the lever to save more lives. It’s definitely not possible to vote to keep things from getting worse while also working the other 364 days to dismantle the trolley.

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                How incredibly privileged and ignorant must one be to believe their lives are being kept from “from getting worse” under Harris?

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                  Yes of course. They will definitely get the same outcome whether Trump or Harris wins. Trump totally wouldn’t do things Harris wouldn’t to make the lives of immigrants and trans people worse. After all, they both support military camps for immigrants and bans on trans healthcare, right?

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                    You have the geopolitical awareness level of a goldfish, it’s impressive.

                    The lives of immigrants and trans people will be objectively worse under Trump than Harris.

                    The same Harris who promised to fund Trump’s border wall with hundreds of millions of dollars??

                    Kamala Harris pledges to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border — a project she once opposed and called “un-American” during the Trump administration.

                    https://www.axios.com/2024/08/27/kamala-harris-flip-flops-border-wall

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            25 days ago

            I can’t improve anyone’s reading comprehension from where I stand.

            Who said it was my responsibility to offer a simplistic solution to an undefined problem?