• Cleggory@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    You quoted yourself, then attacked the strawman with all you had.

    You then expect me to defend your made up straw argument, failed.

    Since you seem to need it, I’ve explained it to you like a 5 year old.

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      28 days ago

      Yes, it’s totally a strawman. You definitely don’t think that we should not pull the lever and instead question why the trolley exists. That’s definitely not what your original comment said. Because those two are mutually exclusive anyway. We can only ever do one thing, like question the existence of the trolley or pull the lever to save more lives. It’s definitely not possible to vote to keep things from getting worse while also working the other 364 days to dismantle the trolley.

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        28 days ago

        How incredibly privileged and ignorant must one be to believe their lives are being kept from “from getting worse” under Harris?

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          28 days ago

          Yes of course. They will definitely get the same outcome whether Trump or Harris wins. Trump totally wouldn’t do things Harris wouldn’t to make the lives of immigrants and trans people worse. After all, they both support military camps for immigrants and bans on trans healthcare, right?

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              28 days ago

              Of course, because obviously the lives of American trans people are less important than your feeling of self-righteousness at not voting. Let’s let the trolley roll over trans people here and abroad! That’s definitely better than at least saving one of them with the little power we have!

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                28 days ago

                As someone who endorses genocide, trans people should look to Harris for salvation from danger! Remember to never question the sadistic people who create trolley problems!

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                  28 days ago

                  Yes, remember to let the trolley roll over the most people because doing something to save lives is identical to endorsing the trolley’s action that could be prevented.

                  And again, everyone knows it’s impossible to do two things, we can only choose to complain about the trolley or make it harm fewer people, not both!

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                    28 days ago

                    How dare anyone worry about a well oiled orphan crushing machine when we should all join hands and worry about one single orphan instead!

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            28 days ago

            You have the geopolitical awareness level of a goldfish, it’s impressive.

            The lives of immigrants and trans people will be objectively worse under Trump than Harris.

            The same Harris who promised to fund Trump’s border wall with hundreds of millions of dollars??

            Kamala Harris pledges to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border — a project she once opposed and called “un-American” during the Trump administration.

            https://www.axios.com/2024/08/27/kamala-harris-flip-flops-border-wall

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              28 days ago

              Ahh yes, because a wall is the same as military camps for immigrants. Sending troops to go door to door to arrest millions the same as a wall that hasn’t done anything!

              I don’t know why you seem incapable of seeing that two bad things can be unequally bad. Speeding and murder are both wrong, but one of them is way worse. A Harris admin who makes legal crossing more difficult is not good, but better than a Trump admin making concentration camps.

              You will be responsible for the camps and the trans genocide because you are incapable of doing the bare minimum to stop it. All the while pretending that taking no action means you also take no moral responsibility. You don’t. You have the power to make those bad outcomes less likely and you are actively choosing to do nothing.

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                28 days ago

                It’s very obvious that you have no actual LGBTQT friends or you wouldn’t use them for political capital fear mongering a “potential trans genocide” while already trans Americans have being killed at extreme rates in Biden-Harris’s America.