You always hear the phase “9 to 5” and also the song with the same name. Assuming you include 1 hour worth of breaks (30 minute lunch and two 15 minute breaks), you’re only working for 7 hours a day which comes up to 35 hours a week.

Now it feels like you have to work 8 hours a day (for a total of 40 hours of actual work), plus your other time off meaning you’re really there for 9 hours each day (for a total of 45 hours). Am i looking at that wrong, or did expected times change, and if so, when?

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    21 hours ago

    Everything changed. You’re not crazy. If you watch movies made before the 2000s about office culture, including the movie 9 to 5, you can see that the hours included a lunch break. Which was paid.

    Yes, those of the older generation had it easier in every way.

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        Where do you get paid for your lunch hour? I’m in Germany and while work life balance is certainly a thing here, more so than in the US, a paid lunch break is something I have never heard about.

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        Most people don’t. So, for an average employee, it would be 9-530 to account for their unpaid 30m lunch required by law.

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        In the US, you’re lucky if you get paid for the hours you work. And many don’t get all of their hours paid.

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        18 hours ago

        I live in Canada. We get a half-hour lunch that isn’t paid in my province.

        Also, if you take more than 3 sick days a year, your boss can fire you. And the 3 sick days are unpaid. The government lowered the number from 10 to 3 shortly before the pandemic, and didn’t raise it again! Oh, and to count, your boss can demand a doctor’s note. Which cost money to the patient.

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          That’s so toxic! I get an hour long paid lunch break, and a bunch of paid sick days. Your work’s policies are shit, I’m so sorry!

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          Damn, Canada is becoming less and less a viable escape plan from American fascism…

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            There might still be some decent provinces.

            But yeah, I blame brain drain, cuts to the education system, and the influence of American culture! Haha

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        Spaniard here. Not only does my company not pay me for lunch time. It also demands it to be at least 30 minutes long. How is it even legal to force my unpaid time to be a minimum amount?

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        Depends on the state, in my state you legally have to get paid for 30 minute lunches but not hour long lunches. No idea why but because of this most office jobs will give you an hour lunch in addition to your mandated 2, 10 minute breaks.

        Honestly I would love to just take a 30 minute break and get out earlier. It’s not even about the money.

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        I work 10’s and we get 2 paid 20 minute breaks that are actually usually 25-30 depending on how caught up we all are individually since they let you walk away early if you’re caught up and how long after you get up, go to the bathroom, get some coffee , put your stuff up.

        They’re actually pretty chill as long as you stay caught up