I’m aware that, at the moment, Florida is deemed unsafe for people to travel to, but what is generally the worst state to live in? Factors such as education, religious extremism, crime, cost of food, healthcare, and access to other resources are relevant. Will “Deep South” states remain one of the worst places to live in due to traditionalism, or are more progressive states bound to grow worse?

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    Every time ive seen an article about worst state it’s always Mississippi :-/. But these days thanks to awful leadership Florida and Texas are making a case for the crown.

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      You’re not wrong.

      Mississippi is typically ranked very low due to a history of poor public education standards as well as being a battleground for civil rights. Not much has changed.

      Fortunately for Mississippi, Florida man is working overtime towards the enshitifcation of their own education system.

      There’s absolutely a direct correlation between education, human rights, and a higher standard of living.

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        Growing up in Alabama we used to joke that the unofficial AL state motto is “Well, at least we ain’t Mississippi” and Mississippi’s motto is “Well, at least we ain’t Missis…AW DAMMIT”

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              According to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) program, the 5 most hazardous states in the U.S. in 2023 are:

              Louisiana: Overall Crime Rate of 537.5/100,000 people, making it the most dangerous.

              Mississippi: Overall Crime Rate of 413.2/100,000 people.

              Alaska: Despite a low population, a high Overall Crimes Rate of 386.2/100,000 people.

              Arkansas: Overall Crime Rate of 385.9/100,000 people.

              New Mexico: Overall Crime Rate of 369.5/100,000 people.(More info about this)

              You ain’t kiddin!

              Source

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              Typically what happens when you rank 51st in most quality of life stats (which usually include DC alongside all 50 states).

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      It’s a race to the bottom, and Florida isn’t here for the second place!

      (Or participation trophy? I can’t decide what fits better)

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      Have you ever visited Texas? Check out Austin and Dallas. Very different than what you’d expect based on the news.

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        I live in Austin, the good isn’t good enough for me to want to stay. As soon as my kids are done with high school, I’m looking for somewhere else to live.

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        Depends on the part of Dallas. Some of the suburbs are very conservative (Southlake is an awful place for example).

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        I’m not from the US, but visited Dallas in 2009. I remember myself and a couple of friends from the area going into a Waffle House.

        First thing I saw was a sign on the door saying to leave your guns outside. When we walked in, there was a haggard old waitress with a smokers rasp going “what can I git ya?” and a mulleted stoner in the kitchen with a thousand yard stare. It was like I’d walked into the set of a movie and while we had breakfast my mates were quite amused at how… roadstop I kept saying it was.

        Kept waiting for a trucker named Bubba to walk in.

        Also in AR a waitress asked me if we had boats in our country, another swore up and down that she had seen me on some Australian renovation show on cable, and while watching TV an episode of Aussie Gold Hunters had subtitles for the Australians even though they were speaking clear as day English.

        The South is bizarre.

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        Depends on where you go in Dallas. With all the megachurches and conversion camp HQs around the metroplex, it’s also known as an evangelical Christian hotspot.

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    Mississippi, Alabama, and Arkansas are usually at the bottom of the rankings when it comes to the metrics you mentioned, especially education. Other southern states aren’t much better.

    Seeing as how modern conservatism has become nothing more than a culture war against the things that improve the general well-being of a population, yes it will continue to be that way.

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    Depends. I’m dead serious when I ask this, but are you black, Latino, a woman, queer, Jewish or Muslim, trans or non-binary, liberal or any flavor of politics to the left of Right wing authoritarian fascist, or any combination of those groups? If so, then stay the hell out of any state south of Virginia and east of Illinois. They aren’t just bad. They are potentially deadly, increasingly as a matter or literal public policy. If you aren’t one of those groups, than you aren’t in physical existential danger. You’ll just be stuck in a nightmare hellhole of poverty and ignorance. But you’ll be safe. Mostly.

    Honestly, I’ve been everywhere in the continental US. Been to every state, seen just about all there is to see driving over the road for fifteen years, and I can tell you that the southeast is damn near a third world country compared to everywhere else. The infrastructure is so bad it reminds me of when I stayed in St. Petersburg, Russia in 1993. And it’s only gotten worse. I have no desire to ever return now that I’m not required to for my job. Florida used to be the one shining exception, except now it’s embracing a return to 1930s Germany. Stay out of Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, Florida, Louisiana, and Texas in particular.

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      There’s more people of color living in all those states you hate then in any other part of the country, so your first point makes no sense

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        You can dislike a place and have nothing against people living it.

        Considering the mentioned locations are, boiled down, hell holes run mostly by angry white men, I’d risk the living conditions in those places is due to systemic racism and other outdated views on what a society should be.

        People living in those those areas are victims and most probably poverty blocked to even consider to leave, regardless of melanin skin levels, although in the US being a shade over milk white is a detriment for having peaceful life.

        Stating those places are a bad choice to live is not racism: is stating a fact.

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            Why can’t I state that some place is a hell hole where no one should be stuck but, nonetheless, state the people living there - or at least a good majority - are actually good people?

            Considering the stain politics is for the majority of places nowadays, with the growing effort for extremists/conservatives/right wingers/religious zealots trying to roll back civilizational conquests attained in least 50 to 80 years, it’s not hard to infer that a very small group can and will make life terrible for those unaligned with their views.

            So, where is the contradiction?

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              I think what they meant was that you said those states were not good for people of color, yet there are many of them there. I don’t see any contradiction in that myself. People are born into countries that are unfriendly to them all the time.

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        Why is that the metric you use, and not the policies they have? Just because plack people are too smart to live in the frigid north doesn’t mean the South is a great place to live

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        You assume that the majority of them live there by choice, and not because they lack the resources and opportunities to move. It’s kinda hard to pull up roots and move half way across the country when the economic and political realities of where you currently live force you to remain firmly entrenched in poverty with deliberately restricted access to any means to improve that situation.

        By your logic, black people must love prison, too, because they represent a disproportionate percentage of the prison population. I’m sure it has nothing at all to do with disproportionate enforcement against them, right?

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    Louisiana and Mississippi, no doubt. Florida is just shit, it has no redeeming qualities and everything is expensive, so that’s pretty bad too

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      Florida is expensive?? Damn. Make sure, next time you come on up to the Great White North, bring a couple extra bucks with you.

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    The news about Florida exaggerates life here. It’s not at all like you see in the headlines or whatever the “Floridaman” posts you always see. Life is fine. There’s good and bad. Painting it as some “DO NOT ENTER - UNSAFE TERRORIST ZONE” is utter bullshit.

    That being said, it would be great if New Yorkers and New Jerseyites fucked off back to their states and stopped buying all the properties here.

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      Yeah but when being trans may mewb tiyr kids will get taken from you its a do not enter state for you

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      Disagree. It’s not just the laws, but the public support that has me crazy here. My very Catholic coworker so fully supports the governor that when the Catholic Church came out against some of his stances, she said they were the ones in the wrong! Those stances being that it should not be illegal to give a ride to an immigrant as thats just being a good neighbor, and it’s silly to expand the death penalty. Her daughter works for Disney too. She doesn’t care. Guy could come in and take a shit on the floor and she would try to explain how that was the most moral thing he could do, and how refreshing it is to have a sensible governor.

      Her views are not abnormal here.

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        Ah, nothing’s more Catholic than placing some dumbass governor above the Pope.

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      Pretty privileged thing to say… Maybe when you and I are the ones they start creating laws against existing, then it’ll actually be bad?

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        Traditional floridaman posts as a result of the sunshine law were offbeat, wierd, and humorous.

        It’s the modern “Governor Floridaman” news that are truly worrying to the sane parts of the country, and that’s got nothing to do with the sunshine laws (except insofar as he is trying to circumvent and subvert them to consolidate his power further)

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    As someone who has lived in 4 (forgot Rhode Island) 5 different states, and two very different areas of California, the worst by my metrics was Hawaii.

    Yes, it has lovely weather, yes, it is a great place to visit… That does not make it a lovely place to live. Once you’ve done all the touristy things, you have to deal with the day to day. Prices are just higher for everything. It all has to come from somewhere, and it’s in the middle of the ocean.

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        Roaches are one thing. The large centipedes are something else entirely.

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      I went to jr highschool in Hilo. Coming from Northern California it was a bit of a culture shock. The pigeon, the fact thay I was a haolie… Definitely not easy. I’ve spent time on a couple of the islands, including molakai and unless you want your life to be that island life, I wouldn’t recommend it.

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          I know, I understand it’s weird and I also made fun of it when I first saw a warning sign in Starbucks that coffee may contain some cancer causing chemical or in the parking garages and carports of apartment complexes that warn about car emissions in enclosed spaces causing cancer.

          However, there are people that work in certain professions that may have abnormally high exposure to certain risks and would otherwise not know. In this example, a car attendant or valet might appreciate the warning about working in a parking garage.

          I recently learned that those who carve and drill quartz countertops are all having lung issues and dropping dead at 40. I’m sure they wish California had given them one of those silly warnings. Same with the Radium girls. I’m all for erring on the side of caution lest someone find out too late.

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            Too many warnings are as good as no warnings. How do you know when it’s trivial exposure vs serious?

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            Prop 65 warnings, while well intentioned, turned into a way for shitty lawyers to make money sueing erebody. It doesn’t do anyone any good cause people will just put that generic warning on everything to CYA.

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      My wife is born and raised in Texas. She thinks churches on every corner is normal. Now she is a travelling surgical tech and falling in love with upstate NY. It’s not my beloved Pacific Northwest, but I will gladly move anywhere away from these loco church people.

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    It honestly depends on who you are. If you hate guns you don’t want to live in a pro gun state or vice versa. If you love pot then you will hate anti pot states and vice versa. If you hate corruption don’t go to new York. If you hate reduculous cost of living don’t live in new England area or the west coast popular states like Cali. If you want to boondocks and live a nomadic lifestyle the Midwest is much more forgiving to the lifestyle, east coast is much harder. So take an inventory of your personal political identity and what your dream state would look like condusive to your beliefs and lifestyle.