Over the past year, the Biden-Harris Administration has continued to take action to fight hatred and violence against Muslim and Arab communities. Members
All they have to do is pledge to follow the Leahy Law…
Israel won’t comply, which means we legally can’t provide arms. Kamala doesn’t even have to be “the bad guy”, she can just say she’s choosing to follow American law and if Israel wants arms then they can comply like every other recipient has to.
It’s really as easy as saying:
If elected I will not break American law to send arms to foreign countries.
She’d gain more than she’d lose, even before counting in the electoral college. Conditioning Israeli aid is supported by the majority of people of Democrats, Republicans and independents, and the people who don’t want it don’t care too much either way. Definitely not more than left wingers who want the genocide to stop. In terms of votes it’s a no brainer.
It’s a valid question and I’m sure the Harris campaign has spent considerable resources trying to get a good estimate of that number.
It’s pretty insane that the Democratic party officials have to say, “We’d love to stop funding a genocide but our members won’t vote for us if we do that.”
Any voters she would lose are far outweighed by the amount of voters she’d get. It’s about 5:1 from what the polls indicate, or about a +6 point gain. Quite significant considering how dead-locked the race is right now
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Our first matchup tested a Democrat and a Republican who “both agree with Israel’s current approach to the conflict in Gaza”. In this case, the generic candidates tied 44–44. The second matchup saw the same Republican facing a Democrat supporting “an immediate ceasefire and a halt of military aid and arms sales to Israel”. Interestingly, the Democrat led 49–43, with Independents and 2020 non-voters driving the bulk of this shift.
In Pennsylvania, 34% of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if the nominee vowed to withhold weapons to Israel, compared to 7% who said they would be less likely. The rest said it would make no difference. In Arizona, 35% said they’d be more likely, while 5% would be less likely. And in Georgia, 39% said they’d be more likely, also compared to 5% who would be less likely.
Majorities of Democrats (67%) and Independents (55%) believe the US should either end support for Israel’s war effort or make that support conditional on a ceasefire. Only 8% of Democrats but 42% of Republicans think the US must support Israel unconditionally.
Republicans and Independents most often point to immigration as one of Biden’s top foreign policy failures. Democrats most often select the US response to the war in Gaza.
Maybe their thought process is that D voters will vote for her either way and they’re trying to pull R voters who support Isreal? Otherwise, I don’t get it. The data here supports pulling support of Israel.
When they actually face real soldiers like in Southern Lebanon they get their arses handed to them.
All they know is blow up pager, burn refugee camp, bomb hospitals, shoot pregnant women in belly, rape men to death, and sniper bullets in kid’s heads.
I’m also offended by Israeli war crimes but I don’t think that’s an accurate assessment.
As far as I can tell, the Israeli military is very good at violence. They’re extremely well equipped, they have superb training, and their military personnel tend to be dedicated to their cause.
The main problem isn’t their ability to kill and destroy, it’s their indiscriminate use of that ability.
That’s pretty reductive. How much power do you think the Israeli people have?
I’m American. I know my country is funding this genocide. All I have is my vote, which has very little impact. I care a lot, but other than my vote I’m powerless to stop my government from arming Israel.
The current extremist government in Israel knows exactly what they need to do to stop Hamas and Hezbollah from continuing to attack Israel, they just don’t want to. They’d rather continue to create the conditions for extremism so that these attacks can be used as justification to finish their genocide.
At this point we know that if you keep an entire group of people poor and oppressed with no prospect of economic opportunity or achieving a viable state, they become easier to recruit into a terrorist group. What have they got left to lose? Why NOT grab a rocket and attack your oppressors? This is why international law doesn’t allow the creation of stateless persons…
Israel could STOP settlement expansion into the West Bank, first and foremost. They could start complying with international law and internationally recognized borders. They could stop working AGAINST a two state solution.
Maybe the Israelis could stop assassinating their own leaders when they work towards peaceful solutions. They could also stop radicalizing their own youth and defense forces to believe that the only solution is to exterminate the Palestinians.
There is a whole range of things that they could do… I wonder why they don’t?
Stop enabling the genocide? Please?
All they have to do is pledge to follow the Leahy Law…
Israel won’t comply, which means we legally can’t provide arms. Kamala doesn’t even have to be “the bad guy”, she can just say she’s choosing to follow American law and if Israel wants arms then they can comply like every other recipient has to.
It’s really as easy as saying:
Boom, election locked up.
How many voters would she lose if she declared intent to stop assisting Isreal?
She might possibly gain a few, but would she lose any?
Is not about voters, it’s about money. Both parties are bribed to keep it going.
She’d gain more than she’d lose, even before counting in the electoral college. Conditioning Israeli aid is supported by the majority of people of Democrats, Republicans and independents, and the people who don’t want it don’t care too much either way. Definitely not more than left wingers who want the genocide to stop. In terms of votes it’s a no brainer.
She would likely gain voters because she would be distinguishing herself from Biden who remains deeply unpopular.
This is THE potential problem with this
Yeah, I would hope there are more anti-genocide voters but i doubt it, honestly.
It’s a valid question and I’m sure the Harris campaign has spent considerable resources trying to get a good estimate of that number.
It’s pretty insane that the Democratic party officials have to say, “We’d love to stop funding a genocide but our members won’t vote for us if we do that.”
Yes. Enough to lose. These people don’t seem to understand this (or refuse to)
Any voters she would lose are far outweighed by the amount of voters she’d get. It’s about 5:1 from what the polls indicate, or about a +6 point gain. Quite significant considering how dead-locked the race is right now
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Maybe their thought process is that D voters will vote for her either way and they’re trying to pull R voters who support Isreal? Otherwise, I don’t get it. The data here supports pulling support of Israel.
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You people really have a massively inflated concept of how many voting progressives that there are. Get off the internet for a while…
Harris would 100% lose the election if she said that.
Best they can do is thoughts and prayers. Oh wait, that was school shootings. Never mind then.
School bombings don’t qualify.
Israelis don’t have the guts to even look the children in their eyes as they slaughter them. Cowards.
When they actually face real soldiers like in Southern Lebanon they get their arses handed to them.
All they know is blow up pager, burn refugee camp, bomb hospitals, shoot pregnant women in belly, rape men to death, and sniper bullets in kid’s heads.
I’m also offended by Israeli war crimes but I don’t think that’s an accurate assessment.
As far as I can tell, the Israeli military is very good at violence. They’re extremely well equipped, they have superb training, and their military personnel tend to be dedicated to their cause.
The main problem isn’t their ability to kill and destroy, it’s their indiscriminate use of that ability.
Of course they look them in the eyes! It helps them aim for the head!
machinin was thrown out of a window
Anybody? Any solution will do, cmon people
Not those islams!
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After burning those kids alive, honestly, I’ve given up caring what happens to the people in Israel.
You should care. The people are not the leadership.
Apparently the people don’t care enough to stop their soldiers from burning kids alive. Why should I care what happens to them?
That’s pretty reductive. How much power do you think the Israeli people have?
I’m American. I know my country is funding this genocide. All I have is my vote, which has very little impact. I care a lot, but other than my vote I’m powerless to stop my government from arming Israel.
The Israeli citizens are similarly powerless.
No. Governments exist by the consent of the governed.
And the Israeli people recently protested in favor of torturing Palestinians. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2q07kd3ld6o
Majority of Americans support a ceasefire. Majority of Israelis support what the IDF is doing. There’s a big difference.
Aaron Bushnell said he wasn’t going to let the U.S. do a genocide in his name.
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You’re a bad person then.
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The current extremist government in Israel knows exactly what they need to do to stop Hamas and Hezbollah from continuing to attack Israel, they just don’t want to. They’d rather continue to create the conditions for extremism so that these attacks can be used as justification to finish their genocide.
At this point we know that if you keep an entire group of people poor and oppressed with no prospect of economic opportunity or achieving a viable state, they become easier to recruit into a terrorist group. What have they got left to lose? Why NOT grab a rocket and attack your oppressors? This is why international law doesn’t allow the creation of stateless persons…
Israel could STOP settlement expansion into the West Bank, first and foremost. They could start complying with international law and internationally recognized borders. They could stop working AGAINST a two state solution.
Maybe the Israelis could stop assassinating their own leaders when they work towards peaceful solutions. They could also stop radicalizing their own youth and defense forces to believe that the only solution is to exterminate the Palestinians.
There is a whole range of things that they could do… I wonder why they don’t?