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    Meanwhile the Cuomo was on the news every night talking about the need to balance human lives with “The Economy” and as soon as democrats were in power, they ended covid measures and testing.

    Prioritizing short-term profits over human lives was a bipartisan effort.

    Edit: NYC Governor Cuomo, not that he and DeBlasio weren’t competing to show how much they were doing to balance safety and the economy.

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        Bipartisan. A casual google news search for 2020 shows Cuomo talking about how awful it was that Trump was reopening the economy in May, and how we need to open the economy in April.

        But he was also on CNN nearly every night, saying we need to get back to work and reopen as soon as possible, but in a good way, unlike Trump who wants to do the same thing, but in a bad way.

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          Cute. You edited your post to change it from the Mayor of New York to Cuomo and took out the part implying this was only the thing that Democrats were saying and then responded to my post with this innocent “it was bipartisan!” thing.

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            Yes, I confused the mayor and governor in the original post. The bipartisan line was original though.

            Why are you so aggressive?

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              There is nothing aggressive in pointing out your dishonesty.

              You’re still being dishonest by ignoring the part about how you got rid of the implication that it was just Democrats doing this.

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                There was no implication that just democrats do it, hence why I said “bipartisan” instead of “just democrats do this”.

                Accusing someone of dishonesty instead of rereading what they posted is aggressive. Maybe chill out a bit.

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                  Yes, you said ‘bipartisan’ after you edited your post which originally suggested it was not bipartisan. So now you’re being dishonest about the chain of events.

                  Also, I did read what you posted, which I responded to. You edited to the post to make it as if I wasn’t responding to what you said, which was dishonest. Don’t be dishonest and you won’t be called dishonest.

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                    No, the original one had bipartisan, I wouldn’t post something I didn’t believe. You must have missed it.

                    It feels ridiculous to be accused of not thinking the republicans didn’t side with capital, against the working class.

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                  The dishonesty is listing a single person (the wrong person at first, I might add) and claiming “bipartisan.”

                  We all know that’s bullshit so just stop.

                  Did any Democrats do anything shitty during the pandemic? I’m sure. But please stop implying there is any sort of equivalency there.

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              We are currently commenting in a thread about dangerous misinformation in which you are providing misinformation.

              I think a certain amount of aggression is warranted, and we’re long past overdue for it.

              Edit: spelling

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                Mixing up the mayor and governor of NY, and fixing it 2 minutes later isn’t spreading misinformation, and it’s sure as hell not dishonesty that Flying Squid immediately accuses me of.

                When I criticize democrats for adopting republican policies, I’m not absolving the republicans.

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          Honestly they were all correct if we simply:

          A) Got enough masks

          B) Got people to properly wear the fucking things

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              Yeah but I’m saying like if we would’ve just worn the masks and not done a lot of the other stuff it would’ve likely been better than what we did.

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                Sure, increasing mask use decreases covid spread. As does requiring/providing a certain level of filtration in buildings that expect over X people, banning businesses that went WFH from requiring anyone who did a WFH job from coming back into the office, requiring COVID vaccinations, etc.

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                  Agreed. Overall, I just think the restrictions in the beginning were too onerous for most here.

                  Masking would’ve been the cheap, smart way to do a thing to lower the amount of spread without having to (god forbid) stay in your house for a little while or do anything to improve your business.

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                    Correct, distributing and requiring masks was the absolute lowest hanging fruit. But we’ve seen what other countries that fared far better than we did implemented.

                    Vietnam mobilized their police and others to help with the safe running of local restaurants and deliver hot, fresh food to locked down communities, this made people more accepting of lockdowns. China built hospitals in areas that were at risk of being overwhelmed and added UV filters+better airflow to schools and public places.

                    The CDC has insane powers, a century ago they were going apartment by apartment, kicking down doors to vaccinate everyone in NYC. It’s crazy that we accept them not mandating businesses have a certain amount of airflow based on the number of people inside.

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      You named one guy. Come on dude. So fucking disingenuous.

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        Did you miss the democrats declaring covid is over for real this time, not like when Trump said it, stop wearing masks and ending testing and other protections shortly after they got into power?