• nroth@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    This article is annoyingly one-sided. The tool performs an act of synthesis just like an art student looking at a bunch of art might. Sure, like an art student, it could copy someone’s style or even an exact image if asked (though those asking may be better served by torrent sites). But that’s not how most people use these tools. People create novel things with these tools and should be protected under the law.

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      3 hours ago

      It’s deterministic. I can exactly duplicate your “art” by typing in the same sentence. You’re not creative, you’re just playing with toys.

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      So what you’re saying is that the AI is the artist, not the prompter. The AI is performing the labor of creating the work, at the request of the prompter, like the hypothetical art student you mentioned did, and the prompter is not the creator any more than I would be if I kindly asked an art student to paint me a picture.

      In which case, the AI is the thing that gets the authorial credit, not the prompter. And since AI is not a person, anything it authors cannot be subjected to copyright, just like when that monkey took a selfie.

      • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org
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        It should be as copyrightable as the prompt. If the prompt is something super generic, then there’s no real work done by the human. If the prompt is as long and unique as other copyrightable writing (which includes short works like poems) then why shouldn’t it be copyrightable?

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          Because it wasn’t created by a human being.

          If I ask an artist to create a work, the artist owns authorship of that work, no matter how long I spent discussing the particulars of the work with them. Hours? Days? Months? Doesn’t matter. They may choose to share or reassign some or all of the rights that go with that, but initial authorship resides with them. Why should that change if that discussion is happening not with an artist, but with an AI?

          The only change is that, not being a human being, an AI cannot hold copyright. Which means a work created by an AI is not copyrightable. The prompter owns the prompt, not the final result.

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            You’re assigning agency to the program, which seems wrong to me. I think of AI like an advanced Photoshop filter, not like a rudimentary person. It’s an artistic tool that artists can use to create art. It does not in and of itself create art any more than Photoshop creates graphics or a synthesizer creates music.

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              How do the actions of the prompter differ from the actions of someone who commissions an artist to create a work of art?

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            3 hours ago

            should a camera also own the copyright to the pictures it takes? (I seriously hate photographers)

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              Ah, but there is a fundamental difference there. A photographer takes a picture, they do not tell the camera to take a picture for them.

              It is the difference between speech and action.

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      The tool performs an act of synthesis just like an art student looking at a bunch of art might.

      Lol, no. A student still incorporates their own personality in their work. Art by humans always communicates something. LLMs can’t communicate.

      People create novel things with these tools and should be protected under the law.

      I thought it’s “the tool” the “performs an act of synthesis”. Do people create things, or the LLM?

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        the machine learning model creates the picture, and does have a “style”, the “style” has been at least partially removed from most commercial models but still exist.