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Fucking everyone wants Trump because he’s so fucking easy to manipulate.
Iran and China are hesitant on him. Iran because he might be stupid enough to actually start a pointless war that’s in no one’s strategic interests, not even the US; China because he can be bribed, but he also swaps to the opinion of the person who last spoke to him, which makes him unpredictable (and thus makes it difficult to establish any policy that deals with the US as long as he’s in power).
What can you say? He’s a Salesman, sure he ‘might’ of destabilised the world for a bunch of consecutive paydays, but he made profit!
What a champ! /s
And obviously all the US’s traditional allies, although it might have been implied they weren’t in the question.
Still kind of surprised there hasn’t been a poisoning attempt on him yet because of how much his ego thrives on being buttered up
Wasn’t that why he loves fast food? It’s easier to target the White House supply chain for a precision poisoning than to try to hit every McDonald’s in a 50km radius and hope to get lucky.
No he just likes McDonald’s
Have you seen the current genocider tho?
Considering how much money AIPAC has donated to get rid of any progressives that were critical of the genocidal Israeli government, I’m not surprised. I’m sure they’re getting even more desperate as as they need money and arms to continue the war started because of the governments sick violation of international law.
They gonna do anything about it or continue to bend over backwards?
I’m betting just more finger wagging while competing to be the most pro zionists in Washington
The DNC as a whole have been trying to remove PACs and undo Citizens United, which alone would gut Netanyahu’s influence in the USA.
EDIT: Since this is somehow controversial, the AIPAC is a pipeline of campaign funding directly from Israel. Democrats have on several occasions pushed bills that would overturn citizens united which fail to pass both chambers of congress including HR1 For the People Act
If they punlicly declared that they consider AIPAC a foreign influence agent, stop taking their money and start investigation for how it is a foreign influence agency, they wouldnt need to change any laws.
They could have madea point of how they had enough and how the Reps are selling out the US to foreign influence. Instead they still take the money happily.
AIPAC is a pipeline of campaign funding directly from Israel.
Direction and Policies come from Israel, bit does money come directly from Israel?
Semantics but I suppose its fair criticism of my poor wording. The direct source of AIPAC funds comes from American Donors, and how or when those organizations or inidividuals got the funds isn’t publicly disclosed.
But it is a lot of fucking money for sure.
No no, they’ll just go ahead and lose and blame Russia and Jill Stein… Probably throw Bernie under the bus too just for shits and giggles
I’m waiting for the strikes on Iran.
Because they don’t want another nuclear deal.
Turns out carte blanch spoils the little nazi baby.
Damn, full support for a genocide that is unpopular with their own electorate, and this is the thanks they get? If you’re willing to lose due to principles, at least make them good principles.
It’s not genocide, it’s ethnic cleansing/stealing land. If all the Palestinians left for some place else, Israel would not pursue them to exterminate them, they’d just steal their land. It’s Palestinian land that Israel is stealing. The Palestinians are just in the way.
You just described a genocide, like one of the plain text definitions of a genocide. Mass murdering a group of people to steal their land.
Doesn’t matter that you’ve made up a hypothetical fantasy scenario where they aren’t caged in cornered, but have free movement, it’s still a genocide.
Oh, and they aren’t free to leave, they are caged and cornered.
So you’re wrong, and you’re wrong again.
Lmfao THAT’S GENOCIDE DOPEY
what’s the point of this argument even if you’re right? fuck what Israel is actually doing, I don’t care what it’s called. Fuck them
With all the good will in the world, my friend, you need to look up the definitions of genocide. Pursuing a population to exterminate then is NOT a prerequisite for genocide.
First off, this isn’t a secret, and it’s not new.
This is just more of the same, the press going the extra mile to give reach-around cover and misdirection for the failed policies of the current administration, or rather, their actual policies, which have lead us to where we are.
You are incredibly misinformed if you believe the conflict in the Middle East is caused by the Biden administration. No matter who is the president, the US will always support Israel. Trump is loves to pretend he will fix something to get votes because his pocket book depends on being president.
I’m not informed…?
No US president in history, from either party, has been this hands-off with Israel. Period.
And I didn’t say war, I said situation, as in the nonstop spiraling of events, without as much as a waiver in US support: diplomatically, militarily, or financially.
The fact that you don’t know that, shows it’s not me who is misinformed.
Maybe you are under informed. The Abraham Accords and the moving of the US embassy were escalations in this conflict.
Wait, so you’re saying that US culpability in this conflict starts, and ends, with the Trump administration…?
Again, I don’t think it’s me who’s under informed on this issue…
No one said it was Trump. The US has been giving financial aid to Israel for over 50 years. You are misinformed because you believe Trump will fix it. News flash he was already president and he didn’t fix shit.
…what? You just said Abraham accords are the reason for this conflict… That’s the same as saying Trump is to blame…
And just because I’m rightfully assigning blame to Biden, the current sitting US president and self-proclaimed biggest support of Israel, doesn’t mean I support Trump.
Feel free to creep on all of my comment history, my political leanings should be pretty self-evident.
Don’t you feel gross telling people that if they say Biden’s policies have allowed the situation to get out of control, it means they support Trump?
I mean, you do understand that ultimately Israel is our client state and entirely dependent upon our aid for their survival, right?
They literally could not be prosecuting this war if we stopped shipping them weapons, and they would never have attacked Iran if we didn’t have our CSG and accompanying missile destroyers sitting in between them.
Point the rest of us to where anyone in this thread said that Trump’s actions started the Israel conflict rather than just escalating what was already going on.
Me: post factual events
You:
Wait, so you’re saying that US culpability in this conflict starts, and ends, with the Trump administration…?
Me: Who are you arguing with here? It isn’t me.
…what? You just said Abraham accords are the reason for this conflict…
I said they were escalations in the conflict
Not saying that the situation is good.
Only one candidate is going to make this worse for Palestine, as a political favor. Recognition of the annexed West Bank.
https://forward.com/fast-forward/618034/miriam-adelson-funding-trump-israel/
Dude, we’re talking about whether Biden is to blame. Please keep up.
Surprising absolutely no one except for the staunchest and blindest American Zionists.
American zionists are overwhelmingly christian and overwhelming support trump.
Fascist is as fascist does
Surprising Biden, who went on TV and told the world that he helped do the genocide for Bibi and should be appreciated.
Like I said, staunchest and blindest American Zionists.
“He meddled several times during the Clinton administration…
…supported fundraisers in Israel for then-GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential election
…in 2020 he was all-out for Trump.”
all that meddling and he has fuck all to show for it lol. hopefully that is a good omen for 2024.
Fuck all to show for it? Democrats literally can’t tell him “no, stop doing genocide” or they’ll get primaried against “centrists” with twice their cash.
Centrists support genocide because AIPAC pays to rid them of progressives.
netanyahu != aipac
I’m sure the fascist who refuses to leave power has nothing to do with the official bribery arm of the state of Israel.
I think it’s meant more as “Bibi, specifically, has failed to get the ideological allies of Bibi into power” rather than “Israel has failed to ensure that both parties are ideological allies of Israel”
The distinction is important insofar as Netanyahu’s alliance with the GOP is concerned, as opposed to the general bootlicking attitude of American politicians towards Israel.
Wait, isn’t Harris pro-Israel?
Both “parties” compete over who’s the most zionist.
This is emphatically false. Like… Literally just a lie straight from the “both parties” crowd.
The democrats are currently pressuring Israel and pushing back politically (weakly, since they seem afraid of piss off voters and hand everything to Trump).
The Republicans fully support everything taking place right now. 100% support for Israel and this Hitler-esque leader of Isreal.
“No administration has helped Israel more than I have. None, none, none,"
Joe Biden like yesterday
Pressuring Israel? How do you imagine that?
Brandon: stop killing people in Gaza, Jack
Yahoo: I think I’ll invade Lebanon. Btw thanks for the fresh shipment of billions in weapons, the military support, the surveillance on our behalf, and continuous stream of propaganda to the west. Also, I had a date night with Trump at his house and think he’s a hotter zionist than you
Brandon: look… anyway… we beat medicare
Joke aside, despite what they say in front of cameras working “tirelessly for a ceasefire deal”, they are actively enabling Israel every step of the way. If the US wanted, this could have been over before it even started.
The democrats are currently pressuring Israel and pushing back politically
How is Israel being pressured? Do you mean phone calls where Biden asks bibi to chill then sends him everything he wants anyway? That’s not pressure. Pressure would be putting conditions on arms transfers and Biden won’t do that so the only thing separating Ds and Rs on this issue is a very thin veil of rhetoric that no one believes anyway
The democrats are currently pressuring Israel and pushing back politically
Saying “Hey, bud, don’t do x, is I’ll be real mad at you,” and then going “Gee, you did what I told you not to. Well, here’s a few billion dollars more weapons for you, so you can keep doing what I publicly asked you not to do.” is not pressuring them, it’s attempting to give plausible deniability to people who feel bad about supporting a blatantly genocidal state, and to fool the folks who take soundbites in the news at face value.
Current Democratic pressure amounts to fuck all outside of a handful of legislators who are demonized by the centrist and right wing factions of the party. To say otherwise is to either deny reality, or else willfully misrepresent it.
The democrats are currently pressuring Israel
Do you suppose they could pressure me? I could use billions of dollars with no strings attached.
Tom Cotton has all but said Netanyahu should kill every Palestinian, which is further than even Netanyahu’s own far-right partners will go in public.
But they continue to suck his dick regardless.
It’s the sweet ketchup scent in the diaper that keeps them coming back time and time again.
What the fuck is this and where do I buy one? How do I set it on people? Does it need their scent or does it have a little slot where I can insert someone’s picture and it’ll automatically home in on them?
I see you’re already familiar with our portfolio. The previous model required an item of clothing, preferably a shoe, in order for the target to be “serviced” correctly. This version simply requires a photograph of the intended victim’s unadorned foot. Right or left, the BawlSac™️ cares not.
The Democrats are only sucking Israel’s dick by proxy. They’re actually just sucking the dick of the military industrial complex, because America is a corporate plutocracy masquerading as a democracy.
Israel’s just a long time benefactor of, and contributor to, the MIC. Their existence = weapons contracts.
Well, duh.
Oh! Which candidate does he prefer??
You suspect?!
duh.
