• OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip
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    And still Trump supporters tell me that Trump is the anti-war candidate and the Democrats always start wars. I guess they will blame the war with Iran on Biden, even though Trump pulled out of the Iran deal, antagonized the Palestinians, and did his best to start a war by assassinating generals. Let’s not forget Bolton’s “I’ll celebrate with you in Tehran” speech.

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    I’d support every war if the first wave in was these old Republican fucks. Let Bolton storm the beaches.

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    4 hours ago

    Gen-Z you thought we’d forgotten about you, but we managed to sort it out last minute! Enjoy your Middle East Theatre.

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      But hey, we might get a decent CoD or Battlefield game out of it in a couple of years.

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        That was BF 3 and it released like 13 years ago. While the trope was “US vs. Russia” the maps and campaign were situated mostly in Iran.

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    Remember when people thought Trump was crazy for trying to go to war with Iran? Choosing the lesser evil everytime in “democratic” elections has got us to this.

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      10 minutes ago

      Which candidate that has a chance of winning the election in November do you think Americans should vote for?

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      6 hours ago

      If the only tool you have is a hammer…

      It shows what a failed kind of people they are, both intellectually and ethically, if the only language they speak is violence.

      Going into a war with Iran will set the entire region ablaze. The only thing the Iraq war did, was increasing influence for Iran. The only thing the Afghanistan war did, was a 20 year sabbatical for the Taliban.

      The US surely can destroy major Iranian infrastructure like oil production and probably cripple its conventional military capabilities. But then what?

      In the process Iran would destroy the oil production of US allied nations.
      We would see years if not decades of Iraq style insurgencies.
      Tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of people would become refugees, with the pressure on Europe easily having the potential to break the Union and turn the states into full blown fascist hellholes. Russia would use the distraction and the high oil price income to deliver the final blow to Ukraine.
      China could feel emboldened or threatened to push for its military ambitions in the South China sea and Taiwan.
      Justified hatred for the US in all of the Middle East would be ensured for another three generations to come.
      The resulting global economic crisis would plunge large swaths of Americans and Europeans into poverty (and many more people around the world, that the West doesn’t care for unfortunately).

      Meanwhile i don’t see anything positive coming out of it. I don’t see how it would stabilize the region in the long run, help economic development or create conditions under which better diplomatic ties grow.

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      Not in modern America. Americans, for good reason, have a kneejerk negative reaction to the words “war in the middle east”. A war with Iran before November would seal Harris’s fate.

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      i think it is more likely that the opposite would happen. Anyone with two brain cells understands that there is nothing to gain for the US from it. Maybe for the MIC but certainly not for the average American who will have to deal with high oil prices, recession and possibly his son coming back in a coffin.