Politics are one thing, but there are servers that without-a-doubt bad. Some for example literally have “lolicon” in the URL. Not doing that also may or may not invite trouble, depending on your local laws.

You dont’t have to deal a_troll_and_their_2_or_3_friends.lol, but there are lists of known-bad servers (#FediBlock brings up some results). Im talking about defederating those, that can almost universially be considered bad.

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    So, lemmy is a little different to the rest of the fediverse in that it doesn’t have a global timeline or the ability to follow users. All you can do is follow groups on lemmy and kbin instances. For that reason, most of the block lists out there aren’t terribly relevant to lemmy as they’re designed for blocking microblogging instances that can appear in global feeds of other micro blogging instances.

    I watch the fediblock tag, and I maintain an aggressive blocklist on our main blahaj.zone instance, but at this point, it hasn’t seemed worth the effort to bring it over to lemmy, given that most of those instances won’t touch this instance anyway.

    I’m happy to do so if it will bring folk peace of mind however.

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    Just as a heads up, your post inspired me to get the block list updated. I imported the list from blahaj.zone (and will keep the two synchronised going forward). A lot of them were unlikely to federate here in the first place, but better safe than sorry, especially given that I’m already maintaining a defederation list elsewhere.

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    In theory I agree with this but in practice it’s difficult to define what ones are “without -a-doubt bad.” For some instances (like the ones you mention) it isn’t difficult, but vague criteria like that makes it very difficult once we get up to the line where it’s less obvious.

    My point is, we should make sure that we have some sort of objective (as possible) criteria for defederating so we can establish good, long-term precedent for when not to. That said, part of that criteria could (and probably should) include doing harmful and illegal actions, which is why I agree with the spirit of this even though I don’t agree with the letter of it.

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      Yes, i agree that the line gets blurry at a certian point. I worded it a bit badly, but i meant just those, that really can almost universially be considerd bad, like pedos. Once the line gets blurry, it gets complicated, i dont mean those. Those should be up to discussion. I wanted to edit my post, but the edit didn’t commit.

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    I personally have no opposition to defederating with known bad actors. I have no desire to see or even be associated with content that’s morally or legally against the grain.