• TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee
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    21 hours ago

    I can see criminals easily exploiting this default behavior to stop the car and steal from those inside.

    Where’s a Johnny cab when you need it, it knows how to deal with criminals.

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      7 hours ago

      Thank God for cars. Imagine riding public transport and getting felt up/robbed/harassed. Glad we can all agree on this Lemmy 👍

      Obviously this is the worst of both worlds, but it’s a weird flex to support cars.

    • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
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      18 hours ago

      I doubt choosing to stick up a vehicle covered in cameras with someone who likely isn’t even carrying cash is anyone’s idea of a good payoff.

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        14 hours ago

        idk i think plenty of people carry expensive stuff on them

        what a thief could actually get for them is another matter but clearly that doesnt stop them from trying

        • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          9 hours ago

          The doors aren’t going to open from the outside, and authorities would be alerted immediately. Breaking the glass on a car window or holding people up at gun point… Yeah. Easier in the parking lot of any gas station, grocery store, neighborhood, Walmart, Mall, Jewelry store, movie theater. Wherever really. The people can get out of the car in an emergency just like any other car. Running someone down with a car is not the answer to many situations.

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        12 hours ago

        Would you rather be reading a story about how this woman was arrested for murder? Just because these men were being pigs doesn’t mean you get to kill them…

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          16 hours ago

          That was in response to being robbed.

          I think the phrase you’re looking for is “defending yourself”.

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            16 hours ago

            I don’t live in a 3rd world country, so I guess I just don’t understand the concept of needing to arm myself before leaving my house because I’m likely to need a deadly weapon while I go about my business.

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              I don’t live in a 3rd world country

              lol the US has the highest death rate from gun violence - it’s literally the #1 killer of children.

              which is not to assert that adding more firearms will help the situation, but it’s got fuckall to do with living in a first world country or third world country.

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                14 hours ago

                In these kinds of discussions you can assume the third world country jab was a reference to the US.

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                14 hours ago

                As an aside: part of the definition of a First World Country includes being a “stable democracy”.

                If a poll was done of American citizens asking them “do you think fraud will play a part in the upcoming election?” I would be shocked if less than 80% said yes. That doesn’t sound like a stable democracy to me.

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              15 hours ago

              What country do you live in? I’m curious which one has no theft or violent crime.

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                Not OP check out my username for an idea of where I live. Besides a bit of gang on gang action in our capital, violent crimes are extremely rare. It’s maybe once a year that police have to shoot at a person, and even then police officers will assess the situation and if possible not go for center mass.

                Note how I left out theft. That’s because you can’t directly use violence to protect property.

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                  14 hours ago

                  Note how I left out theft. That’s because you can’t directly use violence to protect property.

                  I remember hearing this when I lived in the UK for a few years and I was blown away. What are you expected to do if being robbed? Let it happen?

                  • T156@lemmy.world
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                    You do what the police do, and provide a proportionate response.

                    A gun is only to be used if you are in imminent danger of your life. A robbery is arguably not that, unless they’re trying to steal your organs or prostheses.

                    There’s a reason your average supermarket security guard doesn’t immediately whip out the Mini-Nuke the moment they see a shoplifter.

                    There’s also something to be said about the place you’re living in, where you’re to be terrified of stabbists and robberers the moment you step out-of-doors. Do you live in a hive of scum and villainy?

                  • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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                    14 hours ago

                    Call the police. Are you in physical danger? If not why are you putting yourself in physical danger?

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                14 hours ago

                There’s a difference between “violent crime exists” and “violent crime is so prevalent that regular citizens need to carry around an implement designed to kill people quickly while they go about their daily lives.”

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                    13 hours ago

                    “Wearing a seatbelt is the same as walking around with a device that can near instantly kill people.” Is something said by someone living in a dystopia.

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            16 hours ago

            In civilized countries “self defense” means you might have to punch someone. “You should have an easy way to kill someone on you at all times, and keep it hidden so they don’t know” is not self defense, but clear signs of a dystopia.

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              Especially when it causes law enforcement to become so paranoid of the citizens they’re ostensibly meant to protect, that a mere hailstone landing on the car roof immediately causes them to believe they’re being fired upon.

              That just sounds like a terrible time for everyone involved.

              At that point, you’re basically turning the constabulary into soldiers.

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              In civilized countries “self defense” means you might have to punch someone.

              My back is fucked and have an 80% rating from the VA. I’m not getting into fist fights anymore.

              If someone gets blown away stealing shit, the world has become a better place, frankly.

              • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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                13 hours ago

                “Property is more valuable than human lives.”
                A statement from a person in a developed country apparently…

                • capital@lemmy.world
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                  13 hours ago

                  “The strong should be allowed to do whatever they want to the weak” A statement from a person in a developed country apparently…

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                    You’re talking about things like it’s obvious they are just important as lives. Fucking disgusting