While Dick Cheney has endorsed Harris, there have been no comments from other senior Republicans from Bush’s era

The MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell this week hit out at George W Bush, the Republican former president, for refusing to weigh in on America’s looming presidential election.

“All any decent person wants him to do is to say, ‘Don’t vote for Donald Trump, and here’s why,’ and he won’t even do that,” O’Donnell told the Fast Politics podcast, of the Republican president who was in office from 2001 to 2009.

Increasingly, Bush – and some other top Republicans from his political era – are looking lonely in their ongoing refusal to take a side in an election in which many have warned that US democracy is under threat from Trump’s open sympathies with autocracy.


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    big fucking tough guy when it comes to sending other peoples’ kids out to die for a bullshit war based on outright lies

    but when it’s time to actually take the correct stance on something, he buckles like a lawn chair under the average cod cosplaying maga chud

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      I was living in NYC before and after 9/11.

      The Ground Zero pit stayed undeveloped until 2007 because that’s how long it took the money men to decide which insurer would pay for what. George W. never bothered to push them to hurry things, because it was vital that every single penny be accounted for. No problem with starting a war with lies, but money must be guarded to the utmost.

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      I’m pretty sure his endorsement would be a negative. Same with the Cheney one, I can’t think of anyone that would look at that and be like: yes, I’ll go with Cheney. If anything it would turn people off.

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        I think you’re right, but I’d like to believe there was at least one person out there that thought, “Shit, I’d better vote for Harris, or he might shoot me in the face!”

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      cod cosplaying maga chud

      Had to recalibrate my mental image from the fish costume I imagined before remembering that Call of Duty exists 😄

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      Cheney is pissed at his daughter losing her family-guaranteed sinecure in Wyoming to a Trumpie, because he’s invested in his family’s political legacy.

      Bush has no real beef with the Trumps and isn’t trying to give his daughters a leg up into the next administration.

      Totally different set of political incentives to endorse.

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    Second worst president ever.

    He’s considered a war criminal in most countries outside of North America and Europe.

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      Still waiting to see W, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz convicted of war crimes for all the torture they oversaw at those cia black sites, among other things. Absolutely villainous.

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        Bush and Cheney basically fabricated the entire Iraq War and the only people to come out on top were Exxon Fucking Mobil who took majority control of the Iraqi oilfields, and then the executive in charge of the operation, Rex Tillerson, got appointed to the Trump admin.

        Thousands dead for greed. America’s hands stained in blood and grease for generations.

        Still only second worst tho, no disagreement on that.

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          Bush and Cheney basically fabricated the entire Iraq War and the only people to come out on top were Exxon Fucking Mobil

          Be fair. Halliburton did pretty well for themselves as well.

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        Wow, Rumsfeld died three years ago - I hadn’t heard that. Death at age 88 is almost infant mortality for a war criminal Republican. Count Dracula-Wolfowitz is still going strong, however.

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    I mean, who’s surprised by this? Dubya was always a dumbass, and essentially the beta version of Trump.

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      W was always a tool, a blank slate for his owners to use. The guy has no thoughts of his own so I’m not surprised.

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        He may not have been a genius mastermind but he’s smart enough not to be absolved of the evils he committed. Blank slate is a juuuuust a bit too far for me

        Just saying

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        Not sure he was even a shit speaker if we compare him to Trump. His sentences at least made sense. I’m sure he just wants to be done with it all. He retired from office 15 years ago, and he lives in Texas I thought. If he endorses Harris, Trumpees will lash out at him. We can call that cowardly to not speak out do to fear of retribution but he is 78 years old. 78 year olds shouldnt be key factors in planning for our futures, they should be relaxing and planning their next health care visits that we have figured out a way they can access. The average male in the U.S. dies at 74. Let the old man paint a few more pictures on canvas if so chooses and pass in his time. That said… Wish Trump would do the same.

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          The question we should be asking is: is our children learning?

          Edit: apparently some missed that this is a literal quote from Dubya.

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        People keep repeating that, where was this intelligence when he was president?

        And on that note, what actions have ever displayed this “quite intelligent” side?

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          W was an actual Yale graduate and if you look at clips from his governorship of Texas you will see a person who could speak coherently in complete sentences and everything. Republicans have long targeted people with a fifth-grade level of comprehension and fake being that stupid. Trump’s only real innovation is targeting people with a third-grade level of comprehension.

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            That doesn’t really provide evidence of him being smart. Which goes back to my point, there isn’t enough actual examples out there of him being smart. Being able to talk just means you’re not very stupid, smart is a higher bar.

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                Well my original comment was about people saying he is smart. Not being dumb doesn’t not automatically mean you’re intelligent.

                No one is saying he is actually stupid, but I’m calling BS on him being “smart” given how there actually has never been any evidence of that.

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                  He was a fighter jet pilot in the National guard. You have to be at least above average intelligence to be left alone to fly one of those things no matter who your connections are. The folksy dumb guy was mostly just an act. No doubt Cheney was the evil genius behind the administration but George was right in there and aware of what was going on.

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          George Lakoff is on record saying he heard him give a speech displaying masterful rhetoric. Then he lost an election to a “bubba”, and vowed, quote, “I’m never gonna get out-bubba’d again”.

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    Why did anyone ever think he was any good? The folksy paintings? The aw-shucks friendship with Michelle Obama?

    This dipshit has the blood of millions on his hands. He gave us Alito. He destroyed as much of the administrative state as he could. His CIA daddy stole his election.

    Can you imagine our world today if Gore had gotten in?

    Fuck Cheney too, he only cares because Trump was mean to his shithead daughter.

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      Can you imagine our world today if Gore had gotten in?

      It’s not very well-remembered today that Clinton’s administration ended with a budget surplus of hundreds of billions of dollars or that Gore was by far the most prominent voice in the world sounding the alarm about global warming. With a Gore victory we could have been debt-free as a nation by now and actually taking significant steps towards ending our dependency on fossil fuels; instead the debt is $35 fucking trillion dollars (which is so enormous it sounds like a joke) and the only reason this isn’t a bigger problem is that we’re cooking ourselves off the planet anyway and no amount of debt is going to matter.

      Somewhat tangential, but “global warming” was always a weak formulation of the problem and “climate change” even more so. I prefer “anthropogenic runaway global heating” which more accurately frames the actual problem and has the handy acronym ARGH.

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    Bushes are morally bankrupt anyways. Two war criminals and one of them, Laura, killed her friend in a car accident where she ran a stop sign.

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    I wonder if this is because W benefitted from the same ratfuckery that Trump uses (Roger Stone, Brooks Bros Riot, etc.)

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      He wants Republicans policies but not Trump. He’s stuck like a lot of other people. Unfortunately, most of those people will hold their noses and vote for Trump and hope for the best. That’s the two-party system for ya.

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      His nephew is still in politics and he thinks speaking out will hurt his nephew’s political career.

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    Trump is the only chance gwb has of someone else having more war crimes than him; making him look less evil.

    These are Republicans, they only ever serve their own best interests.

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    Oh, now everyone is surprised when he acts like a piece of shit? My good friend growing up died in Iraq in 2008. For what?

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    He’s a war criminal at large who is running from the Hague, he’s obviously going to be on the bad guys side.