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    There has been a lot of coverage about how state Republican organizations have been taken over by MAGA. The result has been incompetence, mismanagement, and an alienation from the “elites” who we used to call the “donor class”.

    I’m too old to be optimistic, but Trump sure looks like the leader of a loosing campaign.

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      They’re giving up the ground campaign because they don’t need people’s votes. They’re going to try to cheat and BS their way into a win just like in 2000. Just look at Georgia for instance.

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      I think they’re complacent because the main plan is to simply not certify. And they have Mike in the house to make that happen.

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        Mike isn’t in charge of it though. If they’re depending on him then they’re sorely mistaken.

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    Does door knocking work? I don’t answer the door anymore, haven’t for a while. I check the cameras. If I don’t recognize someone or their uniform I don’t get up.

    Same with picking up the phone. Leave a message and I’ll call back, if it’s relevant. Don’t leave a message and there’s no callback.

    And I’m skeptical of text surveys, what new scam could be contained within?

    Who is doing participating in these polls? Is this all boomer data? Or are they just pulling numbers out of air for headlines?

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      I’ve gone door knocking both for campaigns and other non-political canvases and most people don’t have cameras. Heck, many people don’t even have doorbells, it literally is knocking on the door.

      Most people will answer the door if they are home, most won’t want to talk. You just move onto the next, it’s about being visible and talking to those that are willing to do so.

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      It can work yeah. From experience it’s usually more catching people out and about while you have the pamphlet bag and they get curious. Otherwise you’re just leaving pamphlets in doors. Calling people seems to be worse in my experience. If you catch someone outside there’s a good chance you aren’t interrupting with a short conversation. Whereas phone canvassing has gotten worse and worse about that somehow. Maybe it’s just something psychological. Some of my best results were being in the same area twice, (to finish pamphletting doors), and someone who couldn’t talk the day before can talk the next day and they give you time because you didn’t chase them like a salesperson.

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        So much scamming via phone. You in person is verifiable, so that makes sense.

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      I’m there with you.

      We have a camera on the driveway and the front walk. We have a sign at the start of the front walk that, in compliance with state/federal law requirements, says no politics (among others). Anybody who makes it to the door gets yelled at for not reading the sign and asked for their permit from the city to go door to door.

      We really don’t like people, outside of expected visitors/deliveries, coming to our door. Our dogs lose their minds barking and then are on high alert for a while going off at every little noise.

      Political texts, regardless of party or content, get an automatic delete and mark junk. Same with emails.

      Mailers don’t make it into the house and go right into the recycling.

      We don’t vote based on the best marketing campaign.

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    didnt the orange turd gut the gop accounts while also firing or replacing all the regional/sr management?

    i always thought that was them giving up on ‘the ground game’

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    It has become my opinion that Dems are patting themselves on the back and relishing in the failing, uninspiredl campaigning of Trumo lately. My thing is, if they aren’t putting their energy into debating, and campaigning, and generally trying to win the election traditionally, where is all this energy and money going? I bet good money that the campaign is not their number one priority at all, and they are instead putting everything they have into their impending coup. Bribes, deals, well positioned traitors, etc.

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    Would you go door-knocking there? That’s a certain way to get shot at.

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      Note about door knocking: you don’t usually go to random houses. You go to houses likely to have undecideds or people who agree with you but have historically iffy turnout

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      last time i went canvassing i ran away from a door when saw the person inside going for their shotgun

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      Door knocking, you’re going to houses that have a history with your party. You’re not just going up to random people’s doors.

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    Yeah they dont care cause they’re just going to throw the election certification and start a civil war if that doesnt work.

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    Yes, great, but that’s not a sign for any Democrat to relax, at least not until November.

    Still, I am imagining GOP campaign volunteers being like:

    “Do you have a minute to talk about how your immigrant neighbours are eating the dogs, eating the cats, eating the pets of the people that live there?”

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      I’m not really going to relax until December 17th. That’s when the electoral college meets to vote.

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        I’m honestly not relaxing until the next not Republican is sitting in the oval office. Too much fuckery a foot. Hopefully this fuckery cools down once Trump inevitably passes due to his terrible self-care and/or cognitive decline

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    I’m surprised by this bit:

    Part of the reason for the campaign’s move was the result of an FEC ruling this year that a candidate’s campaign and outside groups could coordinate their canvassing efforts with super PACs, and specifically share voter lists and data that they collect door to door. It means campaigns could share much of their labor- and cost-heavy ground efforts with groups that can take unlimited donations.

    I thought the PACs need to be independant of the campaign and that’s how they don’t fall under campaign finance laws? Why would they suddenly be allowed to coordinate so closely?