We used to have earbuds that don’t need to be charged because they had a headphone jack, didn’t get lost so easily because they had a cord attached to a headphone jack, never lost the bluetooth connection because they had a headphone jack, and they cost less because they had a headphone jack. https://bsky.app/profile/daisyfm.bsky.social/post/3l3mfjc6sn62k

  • Logical@lemmy.worldEnglish
    53·
    3 months ago

    Tbh I like the convenience of not being physically attached to my phone when listening to music. That said, the removal of headphone jacks from phones is a disgrace.

      • 4lan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        18·
        3 months ago

        No there are plenty of budget phones that still have it.

        When they told you there was not enough room, **they lied ** When they told you it would compromise waterproofing, **they lied **

        They just wanted to sell you wireless headphones

        • P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
          4·
          3 months ago

          I surely love when corporations ruin their products as an indirect way of marketing their shitty stuff to me… (sacarsm)

        • zeppo@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          That didn’t work, though? My phone came with headphones that plug into the Lightning outlet.

          • thawed_caveman@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            3 months ago

            And yet you see everyone using wireless earbuds or speakers. Nobody’s buying the fabled USB-C or Lightning outlet.

            Also i’m pretty sure that means you can’t charge your phone at the same time? I wouldn’t know because i’ve never had a phone that didn’t have a jack port.

            • zeppo@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              3 months ago

              People buy wireless earbuds because they want them though, not because they were forced into it.

              Yes, the charging thing is annoying but it doesn’t affect me in most situations. Also, you can get an adapter for like $10 that allows you to charge and use wired headphones.

      • zeppo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        iPhones don’t have the 3.5 mm jack anymore but I don’t see what the big deal is… you can still use wired headphones that plug into the charging/data port.

        • VOwOxel@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          USBC and lightning are both still digital connections, meaning you have to have a digital-to-analog converter un the headphones themselves, making them more expensive and more complicated.

          Also, you can’t charge and listen at the same time (without an additional cable).

          3.5 mm is the “old reliable” - I will never buy a phone without both a 3.5mm jack and a MicroSD card slot.

          • zeppo@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            3 months ago

            Apple EarPods are $20 in either Lightning, USB-C or 3.5 mm. You can get off-brand Lightning for $6 at Walmart, so I don’t think price is a factor.

            Anyway, I have had a phone without a 3.5 jack for 4 years now and it hasn’t really affected my life much. I thought it was lame they removed it too, I don’t really expect electronics manufacturers to keep a connector from the 50s forever.

            • VOwOxel@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
              1·
              3 months ago

              Fair. Although I have more to say.

              Maybe this connector from the 50s has survived this long because it’s perfect (or at least really good) at its job? There is a reason why all professional equipment uses analog connections.

              I agree that at a price point of 6€ or 20€, it doesn’t make much of a difference for most headphones - although I’d like to mention that for 20€, you’re already in the price range of cheap IEMs (“In-Ear Monitors”), which are really good in terms of price to sound quality.

              If you want reliable earbuds with good sound quality and affordable price (between 20€ and 100€), IEMs are a really good choice.

              Also, their cables are pretty much always robust and replaceable, so if one does break, you won’t have to buy new headphones altogether.

              The only “caveat” with IEMs is that they exclusively have analog connections (3.5mm). I think that’s a good thing, though: the manufacturer has more budget for better cables and audio drivers this way.

              I hope I could shed some more light on this :)

              • zeppo@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                2 months ago

                Unfortunately, I think most people do want wireless connections at this point. We might even have phones with no wired connections at all soon.

                • VOwOxel@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
                  2·
                  2 months ago

                  I find the idea of a phone without any ports incredibly distressing. You’re probably right, though. It won’t be that long before apple and/or samsung try that.

                  I realize now that I’m likely in a loud minority.

                  As long as there are half-decent phones with usb & 3.5mm ports and sd slots, I’m content. The large manufacturers can do what they want for all I care - I just hope my niche persists.

                  Thanks for this exchange.