Nothing is built to last. Not in the customer class of products in the capitalist world. Basically, if you can buy it retail, it’s made to sell. Not to last. Planned obsolescence included at no extra cost.
This is the main reason they got rid of the headphone jack. Some headphones lasted forever.
Now you have Bluetooth earbuds with tiny batteries that goes in a case with another small battery. Batteries that small will last 5 years tops. On top of that sound quality hasn’t improved and latency got worse.
Yes that is true but speaking on clinging on to an older phone, a headphone jack had a superior physical hold. My phone got saved a few times because my phone was connected to my wired headphones.
These dongles that came with phones were also usually very thin. It also sticks out and made of plastic. It just adds another weak point. They somehow added a weak point to a great piece of technology… On top of that phones no longer comes with the dongles.
Also dongles aren’t sexy. It looks like a hack to make something work. Phone companies made headphones unsexy while making wireless earbuds really sexy.
Some people said that a headphone jack made dustproofing and waterproofing more difficult. Maybe but it had be done before. They also said it brings down the price of the phone to get rid of them. Weird considering the Google A series and Samsung mid range phones had it but their flagship phones didn’t.
You made a lot of great points. Thank you for those.
I actually have bluetooth earbuds either came bundled, or I was gifted them. They have come a long way. Easier to connect. Better latency and better sound quality compared to the older version of bluetooth.
I like them, I am not a complete hater but I really am annoyed that this stuff will just turn to ewaste while my headphones have lasted me decades.
I am definitely not trying to defend the manufacturers here, only point out that there are solutions for those like myself who want to continue using their wired headphones with newer phones.
Understood.
I agree with you with the SD card too. That one probably annoys me more. It made everything so much more difficult. Transferring files, backups, swapping out music, seeing pictures from a camera or drone… Made the device less like a computer in everyway.
I’ve been using the FP3 since it came out, and no complaints yet. However, they recently discontinued a lot of the spare parts. Which goes directly against the concept of having a long lasting repairable phone.
I mean I’ve been using an FP5 for the best of a year now and it’s fine? performance wise I have no complaints but I don’t game on my phone or use most social media apps which all look very bloated now days.
I like the fairphone idea, I really do, and I realize that maintaining the fairphone ecosystem is expensive… But! 550€ on sale for a 128GB storage and 6GB RAM phone? GTFO. Update promises are great, but a small company promising 7 years? I hope that the fairphone company survives that long, and even longer, but I wouldn’t be basing my phone purchase on that promise.
For my usage I can get comparable phones for the same cost per day, but with less of an initial investment, and without the risk of time.
You don’t buy a Fairphone because of specs, you do because you care about workers conditions and the environment. Also, FPs support third party OSes that provide updates for years
This phone looks like a bad bargain because all the other ones use what amounts to slavery for their production. I would say this is the actual approximation of a fair market price and all the other manufacturers are cheating.
Also while they’re repairable and they have that going for them, Google also promises 7 years of updates, so they’re not even unique on that selling point.
I think this applies to recent products, we have quite a few 10+ yo devices which still function as they did when new. PCs, half-smart 1080p TVs, first and second gen iPads (one iPad 2 has %98 battery life after 500 cycles) etc.
Nothing is built to last. Not in the customer class of products in the capitalist world. Basically, if you can buy it retail, it’s made to sell. Not to last. Planned obsolescence included at no extra cost.
This is the main reason they got rid of the headphone jack. Some headphones lasted forever.
Now you have Bluetooth earbuds with tiny batteries that goes in a case with another small battery. Batteries that small will last 5 years tops. On top of that sound quality hasn’t improved and latency got worse.
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Yes that is true but speaking on clinging on to an older phone, a headphone jack had a superior physical hold. My phone got saved a few times because my phone was connected to my wired headphones.
These dongles that came with phones were also usually very thin. It also sticks out and made of plastic. It just adds another weak point. They somehow added a weak point to a great piece of technology… On top of that phones no longer comes with the dongles.
Also dongles aren’t sexy. It looks like a hack to make something work. Phone companies made headphones unsexy while making wireless earbuds really sexy.
Some people said that a headphone jack made dustproofing and waterproofing more difficult. Maybe but it had be done before. They also said it brings down the price of the phone to get rid of them. Weird considering the Google A series and Samsung mid range phones had it but their flagship phones didn’t.
You made a lot of great points. Thank you for those.
I actually have bluetooth earbuds either came bundled, or I was gifted them. They have come a long way. Easier to connect. Better latency and better sound quality compared to the older version of bluetooth.
I like them, I am not a complete hater but I really am annoyed that this stuff will just turn to ewaste while my headphones have lasted me decades.
I’m just an old head yelling at the clouds.
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Understood.
I agree with you with the SD card too. That one probably annoys me more. It made everything so much more difficult. Transferring files, backups, swapping out music, seeing pictures from a camera or drone… Made the device less like a computer in everyway.
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The only reason I ever wired my headphones to my phone was rhythm games and now with USB-C this adds latency making the whole thing pointless.
Nothing is built to last? No. One little Company still holds out against this concept.
Btw, their 5th phone has an industrial Snapdragon so they can deliver software updates for a couple years longer.
I’ve been using the FP3 since it came out, and no complaints yet. However, they recently discontinued a lot of the spare parts. Which goes directly against the concept of having a long lasting repairable phone.
their phones don’t have specs that work today, letalone 5 years from now.
I mean I’ve been using an FP5 for the best of a year now and it’s fine? performance wise I have no complaints but I don’t game on my phone or use most social media apps which all look very bloated now days.
I like the fairphone idea, I really do, and I realize that maintaining the fairphone ecosystem is expensive… But! 550€ on sale for a 128GB storage and 6GB RAM phone? GTFO. Update promises are great, but a small company promising 7 years? I hope that the fairphone company survives that long, and even longer, but I wouldn’t be basing my phone purchase on that promise.
For my usage I can get comparable phones for the same cost per day, but with less of an initial investment, and without the risk of time.
You don’t buy a Fairphone because of specs, you do because you care about workers conditions and the environment. Also, FPs support third party OSes that provide updates for years
This phone looks like a bad bargain because all the other ones use what amounts to slavery for their production. I would say this is the actual approximation of a fair market price and all the other manufacturers are cheating.
Also while they’re repairable and they have that going for them, Google also promises 7 years of updates, so they’re not even unique on that selling point.
I think this applies to recent products, we have quite a few 10+ yo devices which still function as they did when new. PCs, half-smart 1080p TVs, first and second gen iPads (one iPad 2 has %98 battery life after 500 cycles) etc.