She destroyed the city of San Francisco, it’s — and I own a big building there — it’s no — I shouldn’t talk about this but that’s OK I don’t give a damn because this is what I’m doing. I should say it’s the finest city in the world — sell and get the hell out of there, right? But I can’t do that. I don’t care, you know? I lost billions of dollars, billions of dollars. You know, somebody said, ‘What do you think you lost?’ I said, ‘Probably two, three billion. That’s OK, I don’t care.’ They say, ‘You think you’d do it again?’ And that’s the least of it. Nobody. They always say, I don’t know if you know. Lincoln was horribly treated. Uh, Jefferson was pretty horribly. Andrew Jackson they say was the worst of all, that he was treated worse than any other president. I said, ‘Do that study again, because I think there’s nobody close to Trump.’ I even got shot! And who the hell knows where that came from, right?
Same as it ever was
Why do people keep saying this?! Sure, he babbled some when he ran in 2015, but at you could hear the words and insert your own meaning. We can’t even pretend to parse anything out of this speech. Hell, his own supporters are walking out on his rallies.
If your grandpa was living alone and conversing with you like this, you would quietly be contemplating a rest home in his very near future. People this far gone can no longer live alone.
Go back to the 80s and 00s and have a listen. Really. Watch a video or three. Doesn’t matter if you agree with what he was saying, his speech was clear, on target.
Can’t say when I noticed the sharp decline, hard to spot, a boiled frog thing. 2019 I think? Compared to then, the man has fallen off a cliff.
He was a demented sociopathic narcissist in 2016, anyone could have, and did see it, and say it then.
Unfortunately, republiQans are a cult in every literal sense that matters. trump only needs to stay alive and they’ll vote for him.
The fact that he’s worse than ever will be borne by them as a secret shame; no one will talk about it, it makes everyone in the cult uncomfortable, and it will not deter them in the slightest.
It’s 2024 and I think as Americans we still don’t have consensus on how unfathomably broken the republiQans have made politics. It’s virtually unrecognizable from the viewpoint of someone even in the 60’s.
He was a demented sociopathic narcissist in 2016
Can’t say much for his supporters either.
Even as late as the 2016 RNC debates he was still speaking clearly, responding to his opponents, and occasionally making a coherent point.
So what happened to San Francisco?
By the end I completely forgot he was talking about San Francisco, and I think that is the point.
He probably did too
Destroyed, so just completely and totally demolished.
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Just like Portland. Burned right to the ground. Never mind all the intact buildings and people living there still. That’s just a liberal hoax.
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Just like Seattle
I’m pretty sure T**** just watched the last half of Godzilla (2014) and thought it was a documentary. Obviously it’s Harris’ fault that Godzilla and the MUTOs destroyed SF. I’m surprised he didn’t mention the nuke
Godzilla
Theodore Roosevelt got shot in fucking lung and still finished his speech. Trump barely or maybe it was glass who knows (literally two weeks later was completely healed) yet got wisk away by four agents then wore a tampon on his ear.
Fuck weird Trump and sounds like he has dementia.
Get your facts straight. It was a menstrual pad, not a tampon.
I doubt Trump knows the difference
Nah, he’s definitely worse now.
It’s just he gets worse at about the same speed we get used to it.
So he’s constantly lowering the bar, and if “not trump” is enough, that means everyone else’s bar constantly gets lowered as well.
If Dem voter’s only standard is not being trump, we end up with people who will take money from anyone
It’s pretty much the reason AIPAC is so blatantly buying primary elections these days. They used to hide it, now it’s literally “fuck you money” against anyone that calls them out for genocide.
Speaking of rambling…
I mean Jackson and Lincoln both got shot, at least Jackson wasn’t a bitch about it.
This is way worse than it ever was.
It’s more, yes, but no one should be surprised.
He’s talking like my grandpa did a few weeks before he dropped dead, so fingers crossed I guess
People with access to healthcare can hang on while deteriorating well beyond where he is over the course of many years.
I want to see him in jail. Death is too good for him.
It may not be his just desserts but it may give us just enough of a bump from am electoral point of view to keep Vance the fuck away from power. Do not prioritize satisfaction over effective.
Same but I’ll take what I can get.
There better be a huge (UUGE) focus on his decline after the debate. That’s the time to put an emphasis on it - right after millions of people see it during the debate.
The press are going to be nitpicking Harris’ earrings or the color of her blouse or something. Major news outlets are never going to treat Trump like Biden,
The sad thing is, he will end up winning more than 20 states despite this.
Also, despite the fact that he is a criminal, a racist, a misogynist, denies climate change and pretty much exclusively pursues policies contrary to the interests of ordinary citizens.
don’t forget he is also a rapist!
Rapist??? I thought he was just with a hooker? (Not that even that is ok)
Well not counting the MANY rumours about his adventures with Epstein; by his own admission he would grab women by the pussy without prior consent
I wonder how his people hope to deal with his condition at work? trump belongs in a rehabilitation clinic, he sounds like he is on autopilot
I think you meant to comment on OP’s post. If you ask me, I’d say he rather belongs in jail. Given the countless serious cases that have been and are being brought against him, it’s inexplicable to me that he managed to get around jail time - and is even a presidential candidate instead.
or jail, but honestly, he seems unghinged in a threatening way.
i mean, like, i wouldnt trust him buying cat food for my cat, and he is former president of the united states, for f**k’s sake
The answer is really easy to understand, money. He has it, you don’t.
if you dont know the answer, money is the answer
They will vote for a corpse, as long as it is not a Democrat. The same was true with Democrats when Joe Biden was still running.
Difference is that a good number of Dem voters saw Biden’s issues and understood it’s a choice between those issues and a fascist that’ll deal the death blow to the moribund US democracy. Trump voters are just cooked.
You get one - there isn’t a third option, and abstaining is a win for the fascists.
Well, honestly the administration is more than a single person, which is why the other points raised by @DandomRude@lemmy.world are important.
I saw plenty of Democrats holding their nose to vote for Biden, while being very vocal about his age and cognition. I don’t see any criticism about Trump from his base. They shun any Republican politician who speaks out against him, so all we get is softballs from those not up for re-election again.
I mean, why do you think Biden stepped down? It was pressure from voters, pressure from donors, and pressure from a ton of elected democrats. Where is that pressure on Trump?
And there will be people who consider themselves good people who wont vote and will just let it happen because they can’t be bothered or think they’re above it.
Doesn’t he look tired?
Weird
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Hey! I’ve said the same thing! You can look at my comment history. :)
Too old and the dementia is hitting him hard. People are saying it is syphilis.
A lot of very smart people?
Many such cases
It’s syphilis, everybody says so… It’s bad… Very bad…
It’s the best… the best syphilis anyone’s EVER had… my doctors…you know doctors say I’ve got great syphilis
If even Trump supporters start noticing that he is spewing nonsense, it must have become seriously bad. They tended to overlook quite some of his brain-dead output so far, I thought they had become immune to senseless drivel.
Honestly, it won’t make a difference. The people who have decided to be Trump supporters are going to stick with him through it all. They think any criticism is either a hoax or a conspiracy to get him down. I have family members who are completely wrapped up in this guy. They believe anything he says and would do anything he says. Literally anything. It’s pretty scary to be honest.
Oddly enough the opposite is true with Kamala. She was saying some wild shit 4+ years ago or just aimlessly rambling. Idk if she just got good scriptwriters since then or what, but it’s a lot better now.
Many people are saying he should drop out. The Republicans should put together a unity ticket instead to reach out and show they can heal the nation by putting two Democrats on their ticket as President and VP.
“The two-party system sucks”
“Wait, that’s not what I wanted!”
Lol
Lol, a unity Republican ticket? What would that even look like? Two Dems would immediately lose the MAGA base and be dead on launch. Trump would also launch a third party campaign!
The “liberal media” and many among the Enlightened Centrists ™ often pose this kind of scenario for the Democratic Party - but never for the Republican Party. I’m just suggesting that the Republicans should take this notion up and do it even one better. For the unity. For extra credit, they could put in Democratic Leaders and start passing Democratic bills and seating Democratic justices even when the R’s are in the majority. Again: unity.
If they listen to you, they will lose. But that’s a good thing, so I hope you’re right. Unlikely, but the worse Trump’s loss the better.
Is it just me, or does he seem to be a bit thinner? Ordinarily I would say that is a good sign for his health, but coupled with this obvious mental decline I wonder if he has really bad PTSD and isn’t eating or sleeping well.
I would have some sympathy for him as a human. Except, you know, he wouldn’t have any for anyone not named Trump.
I wonder if he has really bad PTSD
May his suffering be proportional to that which he’s caused.
Might be even simpler - the elderly can decline very quickly mentally and also physically, and that may he what we’re seeing with here.
Sudden weight loss at that age can actually be a sign of poor health as the body starts to fail and can’t store as much fat. I’d say that’s much more likely than him growing a conscience.
He is certainly someone who was deeply and irreparably harmed by his even more evil father who drove Donnie’s older brother to suicide. Trump is an example of how people who have everything can still suffer.
What is sad about Boomers in general and less so for Gen X/older millennials is not being able to stop the cycle of pain and let them be the last generation to be traumatized by their own family.
I went back to college (I am an older millennial) and it was insane to me the difference in how kids ten years younger than me were raised. Just talking with them and how they missed the whole “it’s the 80’s, fuck dem kids” parenting style.
Kids being loud? Beat them within an inch of their life. Kid needs help with school? Fuck you, asshole kid. I have TV to watch. Going to the store? Lock these asshole kids in your watertight Buick in the middle of the summer for some reason (I still don’t understand this at all).
Then I talk to younger kids who just went along with their parents to the store. It is incredible to me how truly awful Boomer parents were at being parents.
Yep. It’s helpful to recall that baby boomer parents were often suffering ptsd from various wars and nobody got help. Now you have people practicing gentle parenting.
I love my parents but they were truly terrible parents. In it for themselves and duck how the kids feel.
Not that many of them went to Vietnam. I was deployed twice myself and don’t take it out on my kids. I can see them having more generational trauma from being raised by a collection of parents that were in WW2. Although Boomers are somehow worse parents than the people who taught the Nazis.
The correction to gentle parenting is (my opinion) way too far. Treating kids like coherent individuals that can be reasoned with like an episode of Bluey is ridiculous. Lots of parents around my age tried and failed, then everyone goes off in their corners and latches onto an electronic device.
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His hair looks a lot more like normal hair these days, which means he’s yielding to the advice of people around him. Which in his case means he’s losing his goddam mind.
I mean he could stand to lose some weight?
GOP will straight up Weekend at Bernie’s on him to get him into office, at this point.
I was thinking more of a Dead Tom situation:
It’s the office they want, not him. He’ll be removed after regardless. If America lets them.
His speech is getting worse— but he has almost perfected the Putin/Un double cock air jerkoff dance
I was told to read the transcripts back in 2017-2018, and did. This is what he always sounded like to me. A fucking moron. Now, he’s an older moron. I’m surprised this is news to anyone.
Thing is, he used to be absurdly stupid but his ramblings seemed coherent enough for some folks…now it seems more incoherent rudderless babble…hes confoundingly unintelligent…just absurdly so
No bar so low he won’t limbo under it.
Trump is too old and out-of-touch. He can’t represent the American People and should drop out.
Too bad a hundred million people are still too detached from reality to acknowledge this. The unfucking of America will take at least the better part of a century.
I think it’s time to set a maximum age where you can run for president. Because now Trump is the demented old weirdo who has no business running on his broken brain.
Always has been
Pilots have one, why not world leaders?
Someone has to accidentally forget to turn off Mango Mussolini’s microphone during the debate. PLEASE!!!
