Note that everyone mentioned in the article only regretted their statements once they realized the kid was disabled… Maybe just don’t make fun of people’s kids in general? Is that so difficult? WTF do his kids have to do with his political campaign???
Everyone please take note:
Barron Trump has been 100% unmentioned by anyone except when he was going to speak at some gathering, as an adult. Then, when he decided not to do that, everyone stopped talking about him entirely.
That is how you do that. If an adult is getting invovled in politics, they’re fair game, regardless of who they’re related to. People who aren’t involved in politics, you leave them the fuck out of it.
Barron Trump has been 100% unmentioned especially by his father, who doesn’t want to be seen next to him because Barron is taller.
Melania has taken him and fucking noped them both out of life with Donald.
I’m not sure a life with Melania is healthier, but it’s certainly less public.
Yes, her feelings about her husband have become clear over the years but since she’s keeping Barron around, I’m thinking she likes him better.
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“Notice how sad she gets when the warm glow of my magnificent gaze is no longer upon her.”
Too articulate.
After Trump dies, she is going to write one hell of a book.
You think Trump likes his women being able to read?
No but I doubt Trump can read so he thinks his wife cant.
Hoo boy
Melania has taken him and fucking noped them both out of life with Donald.
You know, I’m not entirely certain any more that she wants out of life with Trump.
Melania was a former topless model who wanted nothing more to spend the rest of her life as some billionaire’s trophy wife once her tits stopped making her money. Her entire “marriage” to Trump is and always has been nothing more than a dystopian business transaction. I do not believe for a second she has ever loved him or even pretended to. And for all the times we’ve seen her in public where she looks like she’d rather be anywhere else and with anyone else, she has always, always held the standard views of the stuck-up, holier-than-thou trophy wife she is, who thinks she’s better than everybody else because she was blessed with mediocre genetics, a half-decent plastic surgeon, and some luck.
I think, rather than a general disdain for Trump, she has an even bigger disdain for having been dragged into public life where she’d have things like responsibilities and expectations of her. How is she supposed to be spending her days showing off her plastic tits to the pool boy if she’s having to give a political speech she doesn’t believe in, is completely uninformed on, and can’t even deliver very well to an audience of people who she’d never dare let shake her hand? Having to sit and be the “first lady” at one of Trump’s WH events means that’s time not in Gucci having her ass kissed by overpaid 20 year olds selling her tacky shoes. It means she can’t talk freely to her debutant friends about the peasants that work for them without worrying that it’s going to become front page news. That wasn’t part of the deal, in her mind. She wanted nothing to do with any of that.
Heck, even stealing “Be Better” from Michelle Obama and turning it into “Be Best” probably was less about just one more thing to shit on the Obama legacy, and more because even coming up with that probably expended more time and thought to the idea than she ever intended to give it in the first place.
I don’t think she hates Trump. I think she hates that he dragged her into the spotlight with him. If she truly hated him, she could have easily divorced him years ago and be spending her days getting wildly fucked on the yacht of some businessman in Dubai right now. Someone who, most likely, has even more money than he does.
The two may not be like a couple of lovers on their honeymoon, but she doesn’t hate the guy either. She’s made it abundantly clear that she’s perfectly willing to stick with Trump as long as the money continues to flow freely and, more importantly, she can go back to spending her days quietly showing her tits off to the pool boy.
If she truly hated him, she could have easily divorced him years ago and be spending her days getting wildly fucked on the yacht of some businessman in Dubai right now. Someone who, most likely, has even more money than he does.
Disagreed on the first half, second half made me a believer.
This is a 100% legitimate question . I’ve seen a couple of pictures of Barron recently, and it’s right in Donald Trump’s wheelhouse to suddenly disown his own son for having the audacity to be taller. There’s not a question in my mind. He will never allow even his own children to overshadow him, ever. Unless he wants to fuck them, of course coughivankacough.
I remember some speculation that Barron had some kind of developmental disability. Autism, possibly. And it wasn’t the usual bashing because he’s Trump’s kid. Legit questions on if the kid was autistic. Has that ever been confirmed one way or the other? Because if Barron has any kind of developmental issue that’s noticeable at first look, there is no possible way Trump would ever be seen in public with him.
And keep in mind: I know nothing of Barron. I do not fault him for being Trump’s son because he can’t control that. I do not know his political views, if he even has any. And if he does have some kind of disability, I wish him nothing but the best. But go on Netflix and watch the first season of Bridgerton. Look at how the Duke’s father treated him growing up. If Barron does have a disability himself, that is exactly how his father treated him.
Not true. Trump prominently mentioned his son Barron and his proficiency with “the cyber”, eight years ago.
Yuup. Agreed. The last time I recall hearing of presidential kids being bullied was Obamas kids. Interesting.
Chelsea Clinton got it pretty hard for years also.
I had to look up if GWB had kids or not. Both daughters got involved in the campaign a bit, and now I recognize the one from various TV stuff too. I don’t remember much said about them at the time.
The grown up Trump children get blasted, but they are all welllll into adulthood regardless of what their defenders say, and they are actively involved in all the political BS, so they are fair game for criticism.
GWB daughters liked to party, so they got some airtime for being drunk and whatnot, but not political flack.
LOL, Robot Chicken bagged on those two hard.
Like father, like daughter. Hope they didn’t ruin their brains too
You say “too” as if their dad ruined his brain, but it is impossible to ruin that which is defective to begin with.
The only times I’ve seen Barron being mentioned is when people said that they hope he won’t turn out like his father.
Ditto, one could also comment on the use of a kid as a political prop while not making it personal about the kid.
If that was a thing that was happening, yes, and the commentary would be about the candidate or the campaign.
A reporter commented something like “wow he’s tall” and apparently Fox felt the need to call them out on that.
Note that everyone mentioned in the article only regretted their statements once they realized the kid was disabled… Maybe just don’t make fun of people’s kids in general? Is that so difficult? WTF do his kids have to do with his political campaign???
Because the GOP have found that harassing random family members of their opponents is an effective strategy.
Think of how many people have exited politics because of threats to them or family members.. How many people, especially in the Trump years, who otherwise may have made good representatives, have decided that it’s just not worth it? Think of the senators that refused to convict Trump during his impeachments because of threats to their families.
They do it because it works. Whether the kid had disabilities doesn’t matter, outside of my belief that the more disabled the kid is, the more they’re going to attack, simultaneously hoping to exploit a parent’s desire to shield their child from harassment at any cost and the child’s potential inability to defend themselves at all or even mentally process what’s going on properly. They do it because it gets a rise out of their base, and also because of the sliver of a chance that maybe, just maybe Tim Walz will wake up in the morning and look for an exit because he’s afraid he bit off more than he could chew.
They just don’t know how to handle it when they realized that instead of backing off, he came back for another bite. So they’re doing the only thing they know how to do. Attack. Punch down. Insult. Belittle. Make sure everybody knows you’re better than “them”, by any means necessary.
Exactly - who wouldn’t be emotional in a moment like that? Plenty of other people in the audience looked emotional, and it wasn’t even their dad on stage talking about how much he loves them.
All conservatives seem to be anymore is 3rd grade schoolyard bullies. I guess they’re just as weak and insecure. Such a shame that such a huge chuck of the population will never reach self actualization. What a pitiful existence - kinda makes me sad for them.
Something President Obama said in his speech the other night - instead of making it about us and them, you try and find some common ground. And there’s always something to agree on, even totally opposing sides. We’re still people living our lives.
"That sense of mutual respect has to be part of our message. Our politics have become so polarized these days that all of us across the political spectrum seem so quick to assume the worst in others unless they agree with us on every single issue. We start thinking that the only way to win is to scold and shame and out-yell the other side. And after a while, regular folks just tune out, or they don’t bother to vote.
Now that approach may work for the politicians who just want attention and thrive on division, but it won’t work for us. To make progress on the things we care about, the things that really affect people’s lives, we need to remember that we’ve all got our blind spots and contradictions and prejudices. And that if we want to win over those who aren’t yet ready to support our candidates, we need to listen to their concerns and maybe learn something in the process. "
None of that is easy, and not everyone is going to change. But the other choice is to be like them, and that helps no one.
if we want to win over those who aren’t yet ready to support our candidates, we need to listen to their concerns
dems have been trying to do this for years. YEARS. what do republicans do? vote against THEIR OWN bills, because they don’t want anything to get accomplished while a democrat is potus.
i love obama, but unfortunately the only thing that seems to be starting to work is calling republicans weird couchfucking fascists who need to be defeated in a landslide just to keep the country from devolving into a christofascist dictatorship
the “lets play nice” approach gave us trump 2016 , a 6-3 corrupt conservative scotus, and not even a guarantee that it won’t all happen all over again starting november
fuck trump, fuck trump voters, and fuck anyone who claims to still be “on the fence” about which choice is best for this country.
“undecided” doesn’t mean undecided for this election. “undecided” means “i’m voting R, but don’t want to say it out loud,” because that person knows that they’ll be–correctly–shat on for voting for the objectively wrong choice
And that if we want to win over those who aren’t yet ready to support our candidates, we need to listen to their concerns and maybe learn something in the process. "
This take the high road attitude can fuck right off when the other side’s concerns are irrational racist hatemongering bullshit.
The high road only works when your opponent as a sense of shame and the capacity to self-reflect, even a little bit.
MAGA has neither. The few republicans that still do, the few who are still the adults in the room, have already pledged for Harris. Any of them who haven’t by now are lost causes addicted to Trumps tit milk.
I totally agree with both of you that once you see the person’s true colors, there’s no point in continuing. The point was, how can you know what the person is thinking without actually interacting and finding out their real problems? And perhaps introducing some solutions or directions that, without the labels of socialism or communism, are appealing to them.
If we paint all conservatives with the same brush, we alienate the few (or maybe not as few as we think) to never consider something different. How many times is it said that much of their information comes from just a single source like Fox News? Let’s give them something else to consider before we blast them all as hopeless. As shown, there are those who have heard the message and seen the true Trump in reality who have flipped, but they only did so because someone helped them realize their echo chamber was just that and all lies. They’d still be Trump supporters if someone didn’t open their eyes.
If we paint all conservatives with the same brush, we alienate the few (or maybe not as few as we think) to never consider something different.
You’re preaching to the choir on that point. In fact I got positively roasted a while back for saying essentially the same thing.
The only thing I would say is that I was referring specifically to voters themselves; those conservative leaning non-voters that may not see themselves in the current republican party.
Incidentally, its a belief that was validated by the addition of Tim Walz to the ticket since that’s exactly what his presence is meant to do.
But once those conservatives identify as not just conservatives, but as republicans, there is very little hope in changing their mind unless they’re already predisposed to having it changed.
If we paint all conservatives with the same brush, we alienate the few
have you taken into account the possibility that the reason maga has become as powerful and pervasive as it has is because one of their core strategies is to paint liberals with the same brush?
“let’s not stoop to their level”
again–the let’s play nice take the high road approach is the reason this discussion is even happening.
trump is a convicted felon who also happens to be an insurrectionist. who also happens to be a rapist. who also happens to be a con man. who also happens to be fucking incomprehensibly incompetent.
are we REALLY “alienating” people who take objective verifiable real life FACTS and throw them out the window as “fake news” because that’s what trump says?
no. the time for “we should listen to their concerns” has long passed. as stupid as it is, mockery and ridicule of the wrong side is what will save this country from destruction
I understand your point, and I agree to a degree that once you find out a person is ignorant on purpose, or worse that they know the facts and embrace them, then let them have it. But I can’t see it being constructive to attack anyone before you know where they really stand, and unfortunately sometimes that takes some interaction and “good faith”. Let them dig the hole first before you bury them.
I’m just trying to avoid being a false dichotomy on the issue. People are more than a caricature of red or blue. Hell, part of the Republican plan is to make the peons fight with each other and not talk to each other, it works for them to create this image of the evil liberal.
Pick your fights. Some aren’t worth fighting. Some are.
if we were to end up in a christofascist dictatorship with trump wielding unlimited absolute power, what would you have done differently?
if we were to end up in a christofascist dictatorship with trump wielding unlimited absolute power, what would you have done differently?
Obama was, and remains, shockingly naive in this way.
The entire republican mindset is being trained to abuse this kind of attempt at good faith engagement. Fascism thrives on that kind of naiveté.
I think he knows, he’s just playing for the centrist vote.
These are beautiful and healing words and also we’re dealing with the white Taliban whose very identity is not to play along with that.
Obama’s approach is more preventative, whereas we’re in the cancer-killing phase of things. We’re trying to get back to where we can do things that way safely, if we’re doing things right.
And even the preventative approach has to be fucking ballsy and loud about not letting rich cocksuckers hijack civil conversations to justify robbing everybody blind while calling it “business as usual”, which is what set the stage for all this in the first place.
The sentiment only goes so far when right wing media is constantly going on about the communist antifa radical terrorist pedophile deep state Soros millennial immigrant rapist woke mob that comprises the Democratic voting base.
I love how he said “I didn’t know the kid was disabled”, as if that makes any difference whatsoever to the fact that he sent an unprovoked abusive tweet out about a kid being happy. Jay, you’re an absolute CUNT.
That might be the best part of his apology :
“I didn’t realize the kid was disabled, and have taken the post down. But, I’ve been challenging Walz on substance AND character ever since he was named as the VP candidate. He’s a congenital liar who’s destroyed Minn in a number of ways”
Basically a dickwad with the mental age of a five year old who can’t own up to his mistakes. He even deleted his apology lol.
Republicans can’t resist attacking minors. It’s like they have an obsession with them.
Can’t
Thank you
They can indeed resist, they just don’t wanna.
They’re cowards who feel big when punching down
Just being assholes in general. The juxtaposition between this kid and the hell spawn of Trump is so telling. Sweet endearing kinda goofy kid vs. Abject jackasses.
Faux News and Alina Habba were pearl clutching at the thought of Trump’s “boys” being prosecuted for their role in the organization’s fraud, which was weird because they’re in their 40s, but then an actual child gets mocked and the right wing nut jobs are okay with it. It’s always hypocrisy with these motherfuckers
As soon as I saw him react I knew these fucks would be childish about it.
The attacks on Walzs son are just to mess with his dad’s head, it’s just part of political strategy. It shows how sociopathic Republicans are, nothing is off-limits for them because they have no class, morals, ethics or standards
What a great example of free speech. A radio station has decided what they want aired and what they determine as appropriate and are allowed to take action to achieve that. They have the right to free speech and use that to hire and fire anyone they want as an exercise in that right. They won’t be made to allow what they consider objectionable opinions to be broadcast on their platform. Free speech in action. (Inb4 “muh 1st ammemunt rites”.)
Bob bless America.
Downvoting because your sarcasm is obvious. You misconstrue free speech, with business. This is a business. They are free to not hire people who push content they find objectionable.
If this guy was out on the street in his own free time spouting this crap and NOT on the air and not in an official capacity, then I may agree that it’s a free speech issue.
I think they’re just pointing out a corporation firing someone for what they said is not an infringement of the first amendment since that only applies to the government?
Unclear, but they clarified it was sarcasm, so all good.
I didn’t take their comment as sarcasm, just a bit snarky…I think you’re both on the same page here
My sarcasm is obvious but you still missed the point. This is just as valid an argument as the knuckledraggers will come up with. That is to say, not valid. This has nothing to do with free speech or any amendment. This is as hollow a take as anything the bearded, athletic sunglasses wearing mouth breathers come up with as evidenced by my parenthetical comment. I’m going to upvote your comment because this isn’t reddit and we should encourage discussion, not downvote opinions we don’t agree with or understand.
Clarified if sarcasm. I’ll somehow struggle through the downvoted and still live.
I would argue it’s a freedom of association thing.
The kind of people who think “gay” is still an insult and haven’t joined us in the 21st century yet.
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I’m sure there are already dying memes in certain circles that spouted up before they realized this has nothing to do with politics. Let these assholes eat each other alive.
STOP Making fun of Trump’s Adult Children!
-Republicans making fun of an Autistic 17 Year Old!
we shouldn’t care about the family of politicians anyway, unless involved in nepotism hired positions
🤣
Tell that to the dipshit tweeting “WHERE IS HUNTER?” about the DNC.
Day 1,169: Still no sign of Hunter. The hunt continues…oh that’s clever, I should remember it for parties.
Day 1,170: Why must my password taunt me so.
This is the best type of Schadenfreude. Delicious.
I bet he wish his kid(s) loved him that much. Sucks to suck weirdo
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