Yeah, but in federated social media you can just pack up and set up a new instance.
You won’t ever need to leave the whole thing behind to disconnect from corporate BS.
My concerns the product advertisers attempting to sneak in, bragging or something. It felt rampant on Reddit, so it’s probably left me wary. 😣
And if that happens, you can bet your ass there will one day be instance-wide ad-block that auto-blocks users/instances known for posting ads.
If that becomes a thing, there will be instances that explicitly filter it out.
The problem is its hard to tell what’s an ad and what’s not. Sometimes people ARE just enthusiastic about a product they found and want to share it.
It’s easier when it’s a large company like Burger King or something; like most people won’t just suddenly start raving about this great new burger place they found called Burger King. It’s different for more obscure companies. It could be actual Lemmy users who are just passionate or it could be company employees trying to sneak advertisements into site discussions.
I don’t think there’s any AI or other tools that could distinguish the two.
That’s exactly right, NorSteve_
That’s why I like to start my day with a Whopper and side of onion rings from my favourite local burger joint, Burger King. It supports the community and I get a dank feed while I scroll through Lemmy’s dank memes.
Don’t forget to try the new Whopper melt. Add bacon for $.50 more, or make it spicy with another $1.00. Can’t fight climate change on an empty stomach.
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Teal ‘c would be proud.
I am one of these people, am a dope smoker and recently got into related Lemmy communities. There’s a lot of equipment that you dont hear about until through word of mouth so when I find something I LOVE through word of mouth like the arizer air max or brilliant cut grinder I do my part to scream their praises from the heavens so other smokers have a chance to hear about them.
Oh nice, what communities would you recommend? I’m already in !trees@sh.itjust.works, !microgrowery@lemmy.ml, !cannabiscultivation@slrpnk.net, !high_videos@sh.itjust.works, !stoner_rock@sh.itjust.works
!vaporents@lemmy.beyondcombustion.net is an excellent community you may want to check into :) !trees@lemmy.world is the trees community I frequent, will have to check out the shitjustworks one
I have an Arizer too, the extreme q 👍
Double edge sword. “This guy is shilling” reports go rampant .
Hopefully, the Reddit bot trackers peeps will move to lemmy, and lend us their wisdom.
I learnt so many ways realise a poster or commenter was a bit from those peeps. Amazing MVPs!
And folks like kitboga taught me that spammers/scammers generally stick to a script.It’s gonna be an arms race! Hopefully we win!
Yo I also worry about advertisers attempting to target me with localised advertisements, which is why I use Borg VPN! Nice try, advertisers, but those “hot milfs” are nowhere near me, ha!
/parody
Yeah I could see myself eventually joining a splinter of the fediverse that is even more rabidly anti-corporate than we are right now. Like constantly blocking shills and instances that refuse to do their own aggressive pruning.
I wouldn’t mind some of the “normies” joining. I’m a programmer too, and while the programmer/Linux jokes get a little bit of a chuckle out of me I wouldn’t mind some other stuff.
Amen
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I really hope it works out as smoothly as this, it feels like advertising sneaks it’s way in somehow though. 😣
It’s not and I’m Lovin’ It. The Fediverse I mean. Want to defederate from corporate ads? Just Do It. Have It Your Way and Make Every Second Count.
Really, you just need to Think Different.
Where is c/angryupvote
This is the most beautifully crafted comment I’ve read all day. Bravo!
Corporations are coming, it’s inevitable, but at least this time we won’t have to deplatform ourselves to have a sensible discussion.
Someone will try and justify corporate investments. And once they get in, they will infest. They ALWAYS play the long game.
I agree that they will deliberately try to infiltrate, but corporations are notorious for never playing the long game.
Yeah it only seems like the long game because they never ever fucking quit
That is why lemmy is decentralized, no one can buy every single instance. and even when a corporation buys the codebase of lemmy, another person can come in and create their own platform that is still compatible
Are there any corporations on Mastodon? The most popular part of the Fediverse.
Yeah there is, governments too. It’s not super widespread but they do have a presence.
Due to how federation and anti-viral Mastodon is though, they can’t hijack trends and stuff so a lot will most likely never come.
I felt kinda bad for the people who were here when I joined two months ago. They had their own little community which would get quickly overrun by ex redditors. I wasn’t sure if I was a refugee or a colonizer.
If those people want their own isolated communities, those exist elsewhere. You join the fediverse because you expect it to grow and network.
I feel like it’s like discovering a hidden place at a lake that’s really beautiful. You can’t really claim it as exclusively your’s but would still very much prefer it if no one else went there, as selfish as that might be
To be fair they could create a server and just not Federate with anyone? Or federate selectively?
This is what beehaw did, it ruffled some feathers but imo they’re probably better for it, considering the goals of the instance.
Yeah, I actually like this concept. The fediverse has the power to be much larger, but it doesn’t have to be for any group that wants to keep things small.
I also kind of like how the fediverse has space for just the worst, most bigoted folks to fuck around and find out here. If they run away to rumble or truth social or whatever alternative they’re trying this week, they can stay in their little bubbles and pretend they’re the real popular voices, at least until it inevitably implodes.
In the fediverse, they can see the federation graphs, they can read the defederation announcements, and they can start to see exactly where they stand in popular opinion. I think that’s got to have an effect on them long term. The paid shills can try to deny reality from their followers, but it’s harder.
Being a colonizer or a migrant is up to you 😉
would you still love me if I said I was a refugee
Ya
Manifest Netsiny?
Can we stop the gatekeeping and that normie bs, plz ffs
The gatekeeping is especially ironic because they didn’t use this meme template properly, lol. You know, like a “normie”.
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“layman”
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Great. Now I’m worried I’m a normie and not the “Manifest Destiny” nerd I have been trying to be.
/s
Seriously though, from the comments, it’s seems like the corporate rats gaining ground in places that are federated is going to be a lot harder, and more user resilient.
I read a comment earlier somewhere that at least they hadn’t seen anyone use /s yet.
…yet.
As soon as a space is big and diverse enough that you stop recognising usernames or even instances, you’ve got to signal intent. It’s unavoidable. Only alternative is to give shelter to shitheads, who say the same things, but mean them.
controversial opinion; I think lots of companies should host lemmy instances for their own support forums.
I think that news organisations should create their own distribution instances. The BBC has started to set up their own Mastodon server. I would definitely prefer to be able to create my own news feed, direct from source, and selected for greater criteria than how many rage clicks a headline is likely to garner.
Not controversial at all.
There are considerations.
Corporate instances affecting public opinion.
Corporate opinion silencing/moderating public opinion.
All that, and user moderation as well.A company may not like legitimate dissenters, but it might be in the public interest…
Unmoderated, it might turn into a cesspool.
So, who moderates it? AI/AutoMod? And how? What algo? Does that retroactively apply on updates?This happens on actual company forums. Yes.
So, we need 2 lemmy communities per company? Their one, and a public one? What if the public one is being unfair? Who knows about that?It’s tough!
Oh no, do you even lemmy, bro? That’s reddit talk /s
Different version:
Only nerds with the worst opinions migrate
Only nerds with the worst opinions migrate
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You clearly have no taste.
I hate the word normie (ususally used by incels and the like)
ok normie
It’s a nickname. His actual name is Normald
ok normie
I guess it’s easy to think that way if you’re new to online communities.
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One time we thought that Google was a cool startup head on against corporate giant Microsoft 😔
This is called enshittification, and happens to all platforms.
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I dont think you know how this meme works
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But because it’s federated, we can secede at anytime. It’s a fool proof system like the united states.
