This was one of my issues when I was a Christian. There is no external authority that the Bible was the inherent word of God and no way to ensure that the words within it were transcribed or even translated within the Authority of God.

There is a whole study of Bible hermeneutics that is about finding authority within the Bible.

You know how in the show Community Abed was always trying to meta the show? Imagine that, but really not funny and it’s taken seriously.

the Bible is real. like you can go buy it at Walmart.

They knew what they were doing with those super thin pages. 😉

Yes, folks who don’t read Bible don’t realize how much bible says about money, trade and economy. Proverbs book is my favorite, the deuteronomy book I leave for older brothers in fath ( kidding :-) )

It’s more:

1. a man sees something he doesn’t understand. He makes up a story to explain it.
2. The story is shared among a tribe for generations, occasionally a skilled storyteller improves it
3. Eventually writing is invented, the story at some point is written down, maybe improved one more time as it’s put to paper
4. It’s copied over generations, occasionally improved by good writer, it is adjusted and added to a collection of stories about God and his prophets and miracles

Even had the writers wanted to fact check the stories, they couldn’t, they had spent too long in oral transmission.

Even the new testament wasn’t written by the people who were there at the time, it was more like telling the stories that your grandfather heard from his grandfather

People are pretty prone to improving stories they tell, they make them flow better, they make people’s motives clear when really they were hidden

To put a finer point on it, your understanding of the author’s understanding of the thing in this instance is a third Venn circle without much overlap to those first two. 🤌🏾

I’ve also read The book of the damned by Charles Fort.

Hail, Satan.

Glad I’m not the only one… She is extremely attractive

And her opinion on the sign only adds to it.

That’s not very Satanic, friendo.

No.

Oh, and that’s what the other side is pursuing - a serious discussion?

Spare us. The other side is out for blood. No discussion is detailed in Project 2025.

If we swap the word “bible” for “lawbook” does your opinion change?

Then why did you do it?

Ironic. 🤣🖕🏽

So if you ignore all the bad stuff, it’s full of good stuff? Brilliant!

Do you realize that there has been a great wealth of ethical discussion in the 1700 years since the Bible was compiled?

And you’re seriously going to tell me that the BIBLE, which condones genocide, slavery, the murder of homosexuals, etc, is more moral or ethical than ANYTHING that has been compiled in that time? Half of the Bible was written by litteral genocidal warmongers.

You could put two random children’s books together, and it would be a far superior compilation of morals than the Bible.

This feels like satire, and that’s saying a lot

In my opinion, people who don’t need the threat of eternal damnation to be “good” people have better morals because they aren’t motivated by anything other than just not being a piece of shit. They’re naturally good people

You’re telling me if someone has the urge to murder, but this fairy tale sky daddy is telling them they’ll be in eternal pain for doing so, that they’re morally better than someone who doesn’t have the urge to murder? “I would love to kill someone but I’m a selfish evil asshole and I myself don’t want to be in pain so I won’t kill this person, not out of empathy, but out of selfishness”

You gotta be trolling

My problem with what you said comes entirely from my personal experience. Most of the worst people I’ve come across in life have been theological Christians. Atheists tend to be bound by their own ethics, which I’ve found to be far more powerful than someone telling you how to behave.

I think it’s less the community and more the complete lack of logic based on what the text is their holy book says. If you use the Bible as a moral code, you are a horrible person

So then explain to me why it was ok for God to order his followers to destroy the Tower of Babel and slaughter those building it? I believe God’s logic was, “If they complete this tower, it’ll show the world they don’t need me, and we can’t have that.”

How exactly was that ethical? Or should we discuss being allowed to beat your slave, so long as they don’t die within three days, you haven’t commited murder because they are your property? Is that the ethics and morality you’re speaking of?

Or maybe it’s the “an eye for an eye” part, where revenge is completely justified? I believe it took a Hindu nationalist to add “makes the world blind” to actually make that statement ethical.

Or maybe you’re trying to discuss one of the many, many instances of rape that occurs in the bible, but it’s completely justified and ethical because God said so?

Personally, if you base your morals and ethics off of the Bible, you’re a piece of shit who justifies their immoral behavior using an outdated text as some kind of shield because you think, so long as you repent riiiiiiiiight before you eat the big one, you’re good. 🙄

This user, instead of thinking critically about his views after so many users present evidence against his claims, moans that he “didn’t realize what community [they] commented on”. Not attempting to interact with or even counter the information and arguments presented, he simply ignores it because his beliefs cannot hold against consideration and reason.

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