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    I wonder how “normal” JD would think bodily autonomy was if he suddenly lost his?

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    Been saying forever, abortion is a car that dog don’t want to catch. What a disaster for the GOP.

    Look, the man had to deflect such a question, right? But if Vance, and by extent the Republican leadership, had the courage of their convictions, the answer is a no-brainer.

    “No. I think they are far more concerned with preventing the murder of innocent children, which is not a right, no matter how you slice it.”

    So, uh, is that message not resonating with women voters? Backing up the truck at this late date?

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    Conservatives are no longer conserving the rate of change to human and social values traditional to the United States.

    Under Trump they have become fully reactionary against anything outside of their wealth and privilege bubble.

    So what Harris has done has pointed out that the GOP are not “normal” because their values are really really really far outside the norm.

    Harris flipped it. Because it is true. And she is a better politician than Trump. Poor Vance, not having an ideological raft to believe in, can only say reactionary things.

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      Don’t buy their propaganda. They didn’t become this under Trump. They have always been the protectors of wealth and privelige. You can trace that history right back to the birth of Conservativism in post-revolution France. This is just the latest incarnation.

      I highly, highly recommend Corey Robin’s book The Reactionary Mind. He breaks down the whole history of Conservativism in a very accessible manner, and shows how every incarnation of the movement has ultimately been about one thing and one thing only; preventing the enfranchisement of the disenfranchised.

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        Yeah… let’s talk about Trickle Down economics if you want to see pre Trump examples of the same agenda.

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          This seems like a good spot to recommend Roberts Evans Behind the Bastards: How Conservatism Won. in which “Robert sits down with David Bell to discuss how a consortium of rich failsons got together to fund a network of right wing think tanks and shift American culture in a fun new direction. (note: it was not actually fun at all).” It’s a bit long but is very informative.

          tl;dr the rich hated FDRs New Deal and immediately set about undoing everything it touched, they want a return to the gilded age with themselves as the robber barons and gentry and everyone else as a subservient underclass

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      I think it’s finally happening. The strength of GOP was a uniform set of supporters whereas dems were more like a coalition.

      Turns out it’s easier to unite people against a common enemy than based on a shared belief and goal.

      Well, like the dog that finally caught the car, they finally are implementing actual policy they stand for, and that might be what fractures their base.

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    Almost immediately after Vance got the nod, I hit on a description for the way he appeared to me. At the time, it was necessarily based on very little info, so mostly I posted it because I liked the imagery - I admittedly wasn’t sure how accurate it really was.

    Imagine that life is a roleplaying game, and in every interaction, one chooses from a set of possible responses.

    And imagine that each response is labeled, so there’s the kind response or the neutral response or the angry response or whatever.

    It’s as if, in every situation, J.D. Vance chooses the asshole response.

    It’s actually sort of surprising to me how accurate that has proven to be. .

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        God he’s just Nazeem.

        “Do you get to the Yale campus very often? Oh, what am I saying? Of course you don’t.”

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      Or it can be like mass effect and you choose the option that just says “no thanks” but you’re character is a massive cunt for no reason at all and is like “no fucking thanks you asshole. I’m gonna kill you and wear your face as a mask.” And you’re just left wondering where the hell that came from lol

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        One of my problems with Mass Effect, tbh. The breaking point though was when in Mass Effect 2 you’re forced to work for fascists

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          I think it’s weirder that Shepard is just welcomed back into the alliance military in ME3 as if you didn’t just spend a large chunk of time out gallivanting with a terrorist organization

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      Also like Fable, he makes a lot of tall promises he has no intention of keeping.

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    Pray tell…what are these “normal” things you think suburban women worry about? I suppose it is abnormal on a global scale for them (us) to have to worry about it because it’s a non-issue in actually civilized countries.

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      You know, the usual stuff. Cross-dressing men at libraries, “military age” migrant caravans headed towards our southern border, and how high the taxes are for the top bracket. Totally normal concerns that directly affect average Americans in this day and age.

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        • Worried about that one time and illegal immigrant killed someone 4 states away but ignoring the murder rates in their own town

        • Not wanting her tax dollars to go to some mythical welfare queen but is perfectly fine with it being funneled to incentives and bailouts for big businesses

        • Thinking non-english speaking illegal immigrants are coming for her job as an RN/admin assistant/realtor but not at all concerned the people who do her yard don’t speak English

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      At this point I’m thinking he’s actually a double agent.
      He’s secretly a democrat and sacrificing himself to ensure Trump doesn’t make it.

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        I think it’s worse. I think he represents a large minority of people who agree with him and just don’t say it aloud. He’s on the ticket in hopes of trump dying in office so they can push this hyper-religious and ridiculous agenda.

        Their only mistake was not realizing how unpalatable their ideas are to the rest of the country. If they understood that, they’d have sent a better liar.

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          These religious weirdos are entirely incapable of not being weird about their religion though. Mike Johnson manages to keep most of his extremism under wraps, but even he for some ridiculous reason decided to talk about his son monitoring his porn habits. They just live in bizarroville and don’t know how utterly weird they are to the vast majority of people.

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          Yeah especially after the supposed stroke back a while ago. And then the possible stroke the other day before the musk interview that perhaps caused the odd lispy speech

          I’m very confused how the whole assassination attempt left the news so quickly… Is it possible that his own party wants him dead?

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    I would love to thank him for the continued damage he’s causing to the republicunt agenda. Every time him or dementia don speak it’s driving more and more people away from them. It’s wonderful

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    I blocked like 10 communities that post US politics non stop. All with the same core message, some dont even have politics in their name. This one is called “Microblog Memes”, why do you all post the same us politics slob in here. And further, why does the machine think its worthwhile to spam lemmy of all places with this shit.

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      Our presidential election is coming up this fall and we are on the ledge of losing our democracy depending on the outcome. It’s kinda on our minds quite a bit.

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        no offence or anything, this is not some democracy superhero vs evil dictator doomsday show off. Its a bunch of political candidates up for election with different policies. Its really misleading and unhealthy to assume your world is doomed if the candidate you support is not going to win. Same as it is believing that if your candidate wins you somehow managed to accomplish a heroic deed. The hardened polarization of the 2 camps in the USA gets worse and worse each cycle.

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          One of the candidates literally wants to be a dictator and remove the semblance of democracy. He has already tried once (at least). They are not the same, stop spreading that lie

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          Curious how old you are.

          For someone that’s been around the block a bit there hasn’t been a candidate that’s been so openly authoritarian about bypassing our democracy for his whims and punishing his political opponents in decades.

          2008 with Obama v McCain? Maybe you could make that argument. McCain was a patriot that loved his country even if we didn’t share the same views. Not Trump though. Trump has to be stopped.

          This is also just as a white guy.

          If you’re a women you’ve gone back in rights from 50 years ago.

          If you’re a minority Trump actively hates and oppresses you.

          If you’re gay Republicans actively works to disenfranchise and deny who you are.

          If you’re trans the meds you need are actively at risk.

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          One candidate did an insurrection, says explicitly he will be a dictator, and asked for a Long Knife which he was granted.

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          If the political posts are as common as you pretended they were then you’d know everything you just typed is fucking stupid and wrong

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          Wow thank you for the unsolicited opinion. Why are posting this thinking we are interested? Isn’t that awfully hypocritical after your first rant?

          The ethical choice would have been to treat us to your smug, privileged silence, so do try to be better next time, k? 🙏

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          You are absolutely right (in how it should be in a functional democracy). I also think you might not be aware of how close to fascism the US is. It really is one political party very clearly saying this, and making public a plan for how to do so, which might very well work.

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          It absolutely does. We need to fix it very badly. And we will have 0 chance of that with the current Maga candidate if they get back into office. This time it does matter greatly to keep the self imagined god-king from getting anywhere near our presidency again if we hope to have any chance of a future reform. As soon as those votes get tallied in Nov and he is out, I’m back to burn it all till you take out the electoral college and give us better options for election choices.

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    I’m a little drunk rn. So just in case anyone else is wondering, the name of the fonts used in that post is Source Code. I like it a lot. Also, fuck Fox News and JD Vance.