On X, political commentator Ed Krassenstein, a frequent Trump critic, commented on the change of opinion about polling numbers among the former president’s supporters.

“MAGA is breaking down. They are back to calling the polls fake just because they don’t reflect what they want them to say,” Krassenstein wrote. “It’s funny how they touted the polls when Trump was up.”

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      Has been for 4 years now. It’s so frustrating to watch play out in front of our eyes.

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      Yup. For the last few months it’s been nothing but “Biden is old and loves open borders,” but when Kamala starts to pull ahead it’s, “be on the lookout for runaway fraud”.

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        Yeah, we should have been revving up the fraud engine when Biden was decaying in front of our eyes on national television. Setting it up only after we switch to a young active candidate who gives people hope for a change seems kind of unnecessary.

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      Honest question, as a non-American.

      Surely any and all secret services will be fully prepared this time, and if some MAGA nutjobs were to try it would result in an absolute massacre, right?

      Would they be dumb enough to try? I know that you’re all armed to the teeth, but the US Army and Secret Service versus a bunch of cousin-fucking redneck bois is likely to end up in the former winning pretty handily.

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        See, you’d think. But unfortunately, as an old song once put it: some of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses

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        I think you’re right. The last one only kinda almost worked bc bloated mussolini was calling the shots behind deployment of security forces like the national guard. Next time meal team 6 won’t just be waltzing past an overwhelmed few capitol police.

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        I think the bigger issue this time is the potential for distributing the violence to smaller markets, so to speak - polling places, county clerk’s offices, secretaries of state, even state houses when they vote to certify their state results.

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        Remember that fascists think of their enemy as being both weak and strong at the same time. This gives them a blind spot where they’re incapable of weighing their enemy’s true strength.

        They’ll try, but they’re not as strong as they think they are. The number of Trump voters actually willing to get violent isn’t very big. Could get very bloody in a short period of time, but they’ll ultimately lose.

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      That’s too sloppy. They’re gonna go for thing where it goes to, I forget if it was a house of reps vote or where each state gets a singular vote.

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          If the election is contested, then there are “backup” protocols that are different than than the normal electoral college. I don’t recall if the “backup” protocol was a simple vote in the House of Representatives, or that each state gets a single vote. Trump kinda tried last time but didn’t have the support.

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            If a states count is contested, it’s voted on by the house on if the count goes back to the state and redone. If the numbers aren’t ratified by the deadline, the backup is the chain of succession until it is ratified. This means that the house speaker is acting president until they finalize the winner.

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    Weren’t they “fake” in 2016 and 2020 too? The man has such a limited vocabulary, no wonder he appeals to morons.

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        That’s a surprisingly in-depth analysis, appreciated. Donnie’s brain has been rotting for almost seven additional years now, and the loud noises coming out of his face hole have only become less impressive. It’s safe to say he never made it out of middle school.

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      The melting mango is losing his shit. I don’t think his ticker can take the stress, especially considering it’s fueled mostly with hamberders. I’m calling it now-- if he loses the Nov election he’ll have a heart attack within 6 months.

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    If Trump wins electoral but loses popular again there better be fucking riots

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    Trumps brain at any given moment: If it is critical of me it must be ____________ 1. Fake 2. A hoax 3. A lie 4. Socialist 5. Communist 6. Horrible. 7. Random noises 8. China 9. Change the topic

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    They are back to calling the polls fake just because they don’t reflect what they want them to say,” Krassenstein wrote. “It’s funny how they touted the polls when Trump was up.”

    To be fair, before Biden stepped down all the neoliberals called polls fake. And as soon as they started showing Kamala in the lead they act like they’ve always trusted polls.

    The far right of both parties are remarkably similar, and shouldn’t be running either party.

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      all the neoliberals called polls fake.

      No they didn’t. I’ve literally never once experienced that except from a conservative who is losing.

      “Fuck polls” is not the same as “polls are fake”. In one, it’s being suggested they’re not always a great data source so vote regardless. In the other, it’s suggested “they are made up to manipulate the public because everyone persecutes us.”

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      Nobody on the left was saying the polls were fake because they skewed left. They were saying the polls were unreliable because they skew right toward older voters who answer phone calls and polling questions. But also regardless polls aren’t votes and a lot of people sleep on politics until immediately before voting.

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      Polls generally are skewed towards older conservatives - millennials and younger would rather stab out their own eyes than answer a pollster.

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        That’s not how polls work. If they get disproportionately fewer responses from millennials, they weight their responses to account for the actual number of millennials. They don’t just give every responder equal weight and assume there are simply fewer millennials.

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          If done properly, yes. But even then, you can’t account for all the fundamental demographic biases in people who respond vs don’t. As always, the only poll that matters is the election.

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    Trump: Looks at Venezuela. “Wait! If I get my cronies in charge of counting the vote and they declare me winner even if it doesn’t match the polls, people aren’t going to believe it? Well, I better start denigrate the polls!”