• AShadyRaven@lemmy.zip
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    4 months ago

    My favorite brand of rage is the kind i feel when someone says a bunch of evil things and then follows it with “if you disagree, youre the evil one”

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      These countries that want to be free and independent should be owned by another country that wants to own them and if you disagree you support imperialism… mind-boggling

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        yeah its just

        like how do you argue against that? where do you even start?

        they hide meaning behind big words they dont understand and then invent their own meaning for the word until their argument sounds like word soup to anyone who knows what the words actually mean

        “the house is on fire, it should ALWAYS be on fire, and if you disagree then youre a dangerous pyromaniac and a phlebotomist”

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          Start by asking them to define their terms. “Belongs”, “imperialism”, and “fascism” are the ones I’d like to see definitions for. Though I’ve gotta admit that I’m not very clear on “fascism” these days, which seems to be a term with many meanings, depending on who is using it.

          If someone’s argument depends on a lack of logic, getting them to elaborate on it can make that obvious.

          They’ll probably avoid the question though because they aren’t there in good faith.

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          Okay but phlebotomists are actually evil. It’s the nurses that keep them from going too far. This is why I always take a wooden stake to my blood draw appointments.

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          My default is something snide like “It’s impressive that you were able to write all that when you clearly don’t know how to read” and then block them. For bonus points, make a post in an unrelated community so people who look at your comment history can boost you.

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      Reminds me of the Laserpig vs Lira(RIP in piss) “debate” where Lira demanded that Laserpig define evil for him.

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        I have no idea who these people are but i love that we have debates and philosophical discussions from people with pseudonyms and stage names

        it feels very ancient greek, with titles like Plato or Outis

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          Laserpig is a military history youtuber. He kinda got dragged into doing videos on the Russian invasion of Ukraine and is dealing with tankies/vatniks. His videos are well researched, meme filled and frequently address things he thinks are common misconceptions and why they’re so prevalent.

          Lira is was a tankie/vatnik who was producing pro-Russian propaganda from within Ukraine. He was deported once for it, snuck back in, and was arrested and died of pneumonia while in a Ukrainian holding cell. In case you might feel sorry for him, he had previously called Laserpig a f@g and Lira’s last words to Pig was wishing him death.

          I’m not really interested in linking Lira’s content, but here’s Laserpig’s thoughts on the “debate”. You can look up more Lira stuff on your own if you want.

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            i appreciate the summary but i had to google like half of these words and stumbled into a twitter post where someone was doing the whole “it is with a heavy heart blah blah blah gone before their time!” routine about Lira’s death

            and something about the tone of the message felt like when a fascist tries to sound like a real person (i lack the literary chops to explain this, so i hope you understand)

            So i looked up that user’s name and it was a far right podcaster

            I dont have a conclusion for this little anecdote, its just funny how someone can sound like a bootlicker even when saying non-boot-licky things

            They also used this person’s death as a soapbox to preach against the Joe Biden administration, which is a very righty thing to do (because they are incapable of human emotions like empathy)

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            And if ya want planes and ships we have Animarchy, now se just need someone to cover guns in the same way. Maybe Zach Hazard fills the role.