Locking this post because it’s been plagued with liberal apologia from the start. This community does not exist to debate the merits of liberalism. Quite the opposite, it’s intended to be a safe space from liberals constantly making us defend our views.

I’m afraid I’ve failed to achieve that in this thread, and have left up and engaged with too much liberal apologia already.

There has been some good discussion here even through all the muck. I apologize if I’ve cut off any good faith discussion.

To all the libs salty about having comments removed - you can debate the merits of your oppressors elsewhere. It won’t be tolerated here.