It is shockingly easy to be a better Christian than most Christians
Bingo. :)
Yeah, but have you given a pedo their 127th chance by moving them to a new church?
Forgiveness is the real Christian value.
Forgiving Christians anyway.
No, not those Christians.
Yes and no, forgiveness is what they want other people to do. I mess with you and you should forgive me.
Christians forgive themselves and want to be forgiven for being absolute assholes.
Christians forgive themselves
This is the shittiest part. People will literally pray it away by thinking about it until they don’t feel terrible about themselves anymore and even ask a priest, a third party, for penitence to justify themselves. Like, your threats of eternal damnation sound ridiculous when you have an escape hatch for anything if you follow these steps to clean your conscience.
It was never about who you identify as but what you do and what your goals are
True, but that’s not what the Christians claim, when Christians claim morals come from god, and are explained in the Bible, and Christians consistently claim they are better than everybody else by default. The fucking Christian cult even go so far as to claim a criminal “sinning” Christian has higher standing and morals than a non Christian who never did anything wrong.
It’s especially funny (irrational) since the 10 commandments is supposed to be an example of this, but the first and most important commandment is to believe in god. So believing in god is a basic requirement for morals, according to the Bible.
In other words, it’s more important to be part of the cult, than:what you do and what your goals are
Atheists are atheists telling truth. And Christians are atheists but liars.
True, I have never met a Christian who really believe when they are about to die. they should rejoice that they are on their way to meet their maker, but they never do.
I’ve never met a Christian without some doubts. But I have met plenty of atheist who don’t have those doubts about their beliefs. It’s like once people see the man behind the curtain (or in this case, no gods behind the universe) it’s hard to unsee.
Good point.
Doubt is a common and recurring theme for most Christians. Like: I was fine with God allowing all sorts of evil to others, until evil struck home. How can god allow evil to happen to me or to my loved ones?
But when you realize there is absolutely zero reason to believe a god exist, there is not much to be doubtful about in that respect. It’s so obviously bullshit.As Ricky Gervais said, an atheist just believes in one less God than a Christian
Delusional might be more fitting for most.
Nah, they’re Athiests minus one deity they don’t believe in. A hair’s breadth distinction, there are so many gods to deny.
Creating a meme about being a better person than someone else is a great way to prove your argument.
Anyway, i think that anyone can achieve a healthy and civil lifestyle as long as they actively decide to follow common moral principles. By common i mean literally “relating to the community as a whole”.
Oh so if the community says it’s immoral to be gay, that makes it true? And gay people should follow that?
Not really. What I mean was common moral ground regarding how people should coexist with each other. Or to cite Martin L.K.
“My freedom ends where your freedom starts.”
So al long you don’t take action who actively damages others, you can live (and let live) a healthy life. Identifying yourself with other genders is a personal choice and has nothing to do with that.
That’s much better. 😀
Is always good to confront and share opinions. 👌
The early Christians flipped over from being the cultists fed to lions in the Coliseum to being the ones burning heretics for interpreting the Bible slightly differently in the blink of the eye. Maybe humans are just doomed to repeat the cycle of the oppressed becoming the new oppressor.
So, funny thing, since the first schisms of orthodoxies and protestants away from The Church (today, the Roman Catholic Church), no one has had authority to decide who is Christian and who isn’t. And in the 20th century forward, every Christian had someone (usually more than not) that believed they were false. And on occasion we had some that asserted you are Christian even if you are decidedly not. (Not to be confused with universalists, who believed salvation was extended to everyone, period.)
Even these days, we have apologists who figure that if you adhere to enlightenment or post-enlightenment values, you’re pretty Christian anyway but that’s because they’re trying to feed you more of their proverbial pudding.
The Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance, an academic enclave that studied different religions and kept an online index, asserted from their pantheistic perspective a Christian is anyone who identifies as one, regardless of how they behave or the principles to which they adhere. And this is consistent with the general LGBT+ community who now has a big list of labels to help people figure out their gender and sexual orientation. And because all this is fluid, we take people at their word regarding how they identify even if it doesn’t fully inform how they behave.
Besides which, Christians often have a rich tradition of acknowledging they suck at adhering to Christian values, e.g. feeding the hungry, enriching the poor, etc.
So all that said, if you adhere to values that some Christian ministries agree with, those are your values, and we need not give credit or authority to ancient scripture, when we also have centuries of history of dealing with the consequences of poor mores. Case in point the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights (still a charter of aspiration rather than mandate) was forged from the metals of consequence and suffering through history when those rights were not respected and afforded. Our values come not from divine inspiration rather are informed by events in which they weren’t respected and people suffered and died for it.
Not just about Christians, invariably all religions produce human turds when the follower goes all in on their delusional fantasies
