All our servers and company laptops went down at pretty much the same time. Laptops have been bootlooping to blue screen of death. It’s all very exciting, personally, as someone not responsible for fixing it.

Apparently caused by a bad CrowdStrike update.

Edit: now being told we (who almost all generally work from home) need to come into the office Monday as they can only apply the fix in-person. We’ll see if that changes over the weekend…

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    Reading into the updates some more… I’m starting to think this might just destroy CloudStrike as a company altogether. Between the mountain of lawsuits almost certainly incoming and the total destruction of any public trust in the company, I don’t see how they survive this. Just absolutely catastrophic on all fronts.

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      If all the computers stuck in boot loop can’t be recovered… yeah, that’s a lot of cost for a lot of businesses. Add to that all the immediate impact of missed flights and who knows what happening at the hospitals. Nightmare scenario if you’re responsible for it.

      This sort of thing is exactly why you push updates to groups in stages, not to everything all at once.

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        Looks like the laptops are able to be recovered with a bit of finagling, so fortunately they haven’t bricked everything.

        And yeah staged updates or even just… some testing? Not sure how this one slipped through.

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          Not sure how this one slipped through.

          I’d bet my ass this was caused by terrible practices brought on by suits demanding more “efficient” releases.

          “Why do we do so much testing before releases? Have we ever had any problems before? We’re wasting so much time that I might not even be able to buy another yacht this year”

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              Certainly not! Or other industries for that matter. It’s a good thing executives everywhere aren’t just concentrating on squeezing the maximum amount of money out of their companies and funneling it to themselves and their buddies on the board.

              Sure, let’s “rightsize” the company by firing 20% of our workforce (but not management!) and raise prices 30%, and demand that the remaining employees maintain productivity at the level it used to be before we fucked things up. Oh and no raises for the plebs, we can’t afford it. Maybe a pizza party? One slice per employee though.

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          One of my coworkers, while waiting on hold for 3+ hours with our company’s outsourced helpdesk, noticed after booting into safe mode that the Crowdstrike update had triggered a snapshot that she was able to roll back to and get back on her laptop. So at least that’s a potential solution.

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      Agreed, this will probably kill them over the next few years unless they can really magic up something.

      They probably don’t get sued - their contracts will have indemnity clauses against exactly this kind of thing, so unless they seriously misrepresented what their product does, this probably isn’t a contract breach.

      If you are running crowdstrike, it’s probably because you have some regulatory obligations and an auditor to appease - you aren’t going to be able to just turn it off overnight, but I’m sure there are going to be some pretty awkward meetings when it comes to contract renewals in the next year, and I can’t imagine them seeing much growth

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        Nah. This has happened with every major corporate antivirus product. Multiple times. And the top IT people advising on purchasing decisions know this.

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          Yep. This is just uninformed people thinking this doesn’t happen. It’s been happening since av was born. It’s not new and this will not kill CS they’re still king.

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        Don’t most indemnity clauses have exceptions for gross negligence? Pushing out an update this destructive without it getting caught by any quality control checks sure seems grossly negligent.

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        explain to the project manager with crayons why you shouldn’t do this

        Can’t; the project manager ate all the crayons

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        Why is it bad to do on a Friday? Based on your last paragraph, I would have thought Friday is probably the best week day to do it.

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          Most companies, mine included, try to roll out updates during the middle or start of a week. That way if there are issues the full team is available to address them.

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          I’m not sure what you’d expect to be able to do in a safe mode with no disk access.

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      I think you’re on the nose, here. I laughed at the headline, but the more I read the more I see how fucked they are. Airlines. Industrial plants. Fucking governments. This one is big in a way that will likely get used as a case study.

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      Yeah saw that several steel mills have been bricked by this, that’s months and millions to restart

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        Got a link? I find it hard to believe that a process like that would stop because of a few windows machines not booting.

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            Those machines should be airgapped and no need to run Crowdstrike on them. If the process controller machines of a steel mill are connected to the internet and installing auto updates then there really is no hope for this world.

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              I work in an environment where the workstations aren’t on the Internet there’s a separate network, there’s still a need for antivirus and we were hit with bsod yesterday

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              There is no unsafer place than isolated network. AV and xdr is not optional in industry/healthcare etc.

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          There are a lot of heavy manufacturing tools that are controlled and have their interface handled by Windows under the hood.

          They’re not all networked, and some are super old, but a more modernized facility could easily be using a more modern version of Windows and be networked to have flow of materials, etc more tightly integrated into their systems.

          The higher precision your operation, the more useful having much more advanced logs, networked to a central system, becomes in tracking quality control.

          Imagine if after the fact, you could track a set of .1% of batches that are failing more often and look at the per second logs of temperature they were at during the process, and see that there’s 1° temperature variance between the 30th to 40th minute that wasn’t experienced by the rest of your batches. (Obviously that’s nonsense because I don’t know anything about the actual process of steel manufacturing. But I do know that there’s a lot of industrial manufacturing tooling that’s an application on top of windows, and the higher precision your output needs to be, the more useful it is to have high quality data every step of the way.)

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      Don’t we blame MS at least as much? How does MS let an update like this push through their Windows Update system? How does an application update make the whole OS unable to boot? Blue screens on Windows have been around for decades, why don’t we have a better recovery system?

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        Crowdstrike runs at ring 0, effectively as part of the kernel. Like a device driver. There are no safeguards at that level. Extreme testing and diligence is required, because these are the consequences for getting it wrong. This is entirely on crowdstrike.

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        They can have all the clauses they like but pulling something like this off requires a certain amount of gross negligence that they can almost certainly be held liable for.

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      The four multinational corporations I worked at were almost entirely Windows servers with the exception of vendor specific stuff running Linux. Companies REALLY want that support clause in their infrastructure agreement.

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        I’ve worked as an IT architect at various companies in my career and you can definitely get support contracts for engineering support of RHEL, Ubuntu, SUSE, etc. That isn’t the issue. The issue is that there are a lot of system administrators with “15 years experience in Linux” that have no real experience in Linux. They have experience googling for guides and tutorials while having cobbled together documents of doing various things without understanding what they are really doing.

        I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen an enterprise patch their Linux solutions (if they patched them at all with some ridiculous rubberstamped PO&AM) manually without deploying a repo and updating the repo treating it as you would a WSUS. Hell, I’m pleasantly surprised if I see them joined to a Windows domain (a few times) or an LDAP (once but they didn’t have a trust with the Domain Forest or use sudoer rules…sigh).

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          The issue is that there are a lot of system administrators with “15 years experience in Linux” that have no real experience in Linux.

          Reminds me of this guy I helped a few years ago. His name was Bob, and he was a sysadmin at a predominantly Windows company. The software I was supporting, however, only ran on Linux. So since Bob had been a UNIX admin back in the 80s they picked him to install the software.

          But it had been 30 years since he ever touched a CLI. Every time I got on a call with him, I’d have to give him every keystroke one by one, all while listening to him complain about how much he hated it. After three or four calls I just gave up and used the screenshare to do everything myself.

          AFAIK he’s still the only Linux “sysadmin” there.

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          “googling answers”, I feel personally violated.

          /s

          To be fare, there is not reason to memorize things that you need once or twice. Google is tool, and good for Linux issues. Why debug some issue for few hours, if you can Google resolution in minutes.

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            I’m not against using Google, stack exhange, man pages, apropos, tldr, etc. but if you’re trying to advertise competence with a skillset but you can’t do the basics and frankly it is still essentially a mystery to you then youre just being dishonest. Sure use all tools available to you though because that’s a good thing to do.

            Just because someone breathed air in the same space occasionally over the years where a tool exists does not mean that they can honestly say that those are years of experience with it on a resume or whatever.

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              Just because someone breathed air in the same space occasionally over the years where a tool exists does not mean that they can honestly say that those are years of experience with it on a resume or whatever.

              Capitalism makes them to.

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            Agreed. If you are not incompetent, you will remember the stuff that you use often. You will know exactly where to look to refresh your memory for things you use infrequently, and when you do need to look something up, you will understand the solution and why it’s correct. Being good at looking things up, is like half the job.

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        Companies REALLY want that support clause in their infrastructure agreement.

        RedHat, Ubuntu, SUSE - they all exist on support contracts.

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      I’ve had my PC shut down for updates three times now, while using it as a Jellyfin server from another room. And I’ve only been using it for this purpose for six months or so.

      I can’t imagine running anything critical on it.

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        Windows server, the OS, runs differently from desktop windows. So if you’re using desktop windows and expecting it to run like a server, well, that’s on you. However, I ran windows server 2016 and then 2019 for quite a few years just doing general homelab stuff and it is really a pain compared to Linux which I switched to on my server about a year ago. Server stuff is just way easier on Linux in my experience.

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          It doesn’t have to, though. Linux manages to do both just fine, with relatively minor compromises.

          Expecting an OS to handle keeping software running is not a big ask.

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            Yup, I use Linux to run a Jellyfin server, as well as a few others things. The only problem is that the CPU I’m using (Ryzen 1st gen) will crash every couple weeks or so (known hardware fault, I never bothered to RMA), but that’s honestly not that bad since I can just walk over and restart it. Before that, it ran happily on an old Phenom II from 2009 for something like 10 years (old PC), and I mostly replaced it because the Ryzen uses a bit less electricity (enough that I used to turn the old PC off at night; this one runs 24/7 as is way more convenient).

            So aside from this hardware issue, Linux has been extremely solid. I have a VPS that tunnels traffic into my Jellyfin and other services from outside, and it pretty much never goes down (I guess the host reboots it once a year or something for hardware maintenance). I run updates when I want to (when I remember, which is about monthly), and it only goes down for like 30 sec to reboot after updates are applied.

            So yeah, Linux FTW, once it’s set up, it just runs.

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              not that bad since I can just walk over and restart it.

              You can try to use watchdog to automatically restart on crashes. Or go through RMA.

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                I could, but it’s a pretty rare nuisance. I’d rather just replace the CPU than go through RMA, a newer gen CPU is quite inexpensive, I could probably get by with a <$100 CPU since anything AM4 should work (I have an X370 with support for 5XXX series CPUs).

                I’m personally looking at replacing it with a much lower power chip, like maybe something ARM. I just haven’t found something that would fit well since I need 2-4 SATA (PCIe card could work), 16GB+ RAM, and a relatively strong CPU. I’m hopeful that with ARM Snapdragon chips making their way to laptops and RISC-V getting more available, I’ll find something that’ll fit that niche well. Otherwise, I’ll just upgrade when my wife or I upgrade, which is what I usually do.

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                  I just haven’t found something that would fit well since I need 2-4 SATA (PCIe card could work), 16GB+ RAM, and a relatively strong CPU.

                  4 SATA, 8GB RAM is easy to find. What do you need 16 gigs for? Compiling Gentoo?

                  Star64 for ARM and Quartz64 for RV.

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          Because I only have one PC (that I need for work), and I can’t be arsed to cock around with dual boot just to watch movies. Especially when Windows will probably break that at some point.

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            Can you use Linux as main OS then? What do you need your computer to do?

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              I need to run windows software that makes other windows software, that will be run on our customers (who pay us quite well) PCs that also run windows.

              Plus gaming. I’m not switching my primary box to Linux at any point. If I get a mini server, that will probably ruin Linux.

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                I need to run windows software that makes other windows software, that will be run on our customers (who pay us quite well) PCs that also run windows.

                Mingw, but whatever. Maybe there is somethong mingw can’t do.

                Plus gaming. I’m not switching my primary box to Linux at any point.

                Unless it is Apex and some other worst offenders or you use GPU from the only company actively hostile to linux, gaming is fine.

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      I dunno, but doesn’t like a quarter of the internet kinda run on Azure?

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      I know i was really surprised how many there are. But honestly think of how many companies are using active directory and azure

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    >Make a kernel-level antivirus
    >Make it proprietary
    >Don’t test updates… for some reason??

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            Is the 4x10 really worth the extra day off? Tbh I’m not sure it would work very well for me… I find just one 10-hour day to be kinda draining, so doing that 4 times a week every week feels like it might just cancel out any benefits of the extra day off.

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              I am very used to it so I don’t find it draining. I tried 5x8 once and it felt more like working an extra day than getting more time in the afternoon. If that makes sense. I also start early around 7am, so I am only staying a little later than other people

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        Yep, anything done on Friday can enter the world on a Monday.

        I don’t really have any plans most weekends, but I sure as shit don’t plan on spending it fixing Friday’s fuckups.

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          And honestly, anything that can be done Monday is probably better done on Tuesday. Why start off your week by screwing stuff up?

          We have a team policy to never do externally facing updates on Fridays, and we generally avoid Mondays as well unless it’s urgent. Here’s roughly what each day is for:

          • Monday - urgent patches that were ready on Friday; everyone WFH
          • Tuesday - most releases; work in-office
          • Wed - fixing stuff we broke on Tuesday/planning the next release; work in-office
          • Thu - fixing stuff we broke on Tuesday, closing things out for the week; WFH
          • Fri - documentation, reviews, etc; WFH

          If things go sideways, we come in on Thu to straighten it out, but that almost never happens.

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        Actually I was not even joking. I also work in IT and have exactly the same opinion. Friday is for easy stuff!

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        This is fine as long as you politely ask everyone on the Internet to slow down and stop exploiting new vulnerabilities.

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          I think vulnerabilities found count as “something broken” and chap you replied to simply did not think that far ahead hahah

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            For real - A cyber security company should basically always be pushing out updates.

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              Exactly. You don’t know what the vulnerabilities are, but the vendors pushing out updates typically do. So stay on top of updates to limit the attack surface.

              Major releases can wait, security updates should be pushed as soon as they can be proven to not break prod.

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              always pushing out updates

              Notes: Version bump: Eric is a twat so I removed his name from the listed coder team members on the about window.

              git push --force

              leans back in chair productive day, productive day indeed

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        This is AV, and even possible that it is part of definitions (for example some windows file deleted as false positive). You update those daily.

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      You posted this 14 hours ago, which would have made it 4:30 am in Austin, Texas where Cloudstrike is based. You may have felt the effect on Friday, but it’s extremely likely that the person who made the change did it late on a Thursday.

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    Yeah my plans of going to sleep last night were thoroughly dashed as every single windows server across every datacenter I manage between two countries all cried out at the same time lmao

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        Marginal? You must be joking. A vast amount of servers run on Windows Server. Where I work alone we have several hundred and many companies have a similar setup. Statista put the Windows Server OS market share over 70% in 2019. While I find it hard to believe it would be that high, it does clearly indicate it’s most certainly not a marginal percentage.

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          I’m not getting an account on Statista, and I agree that its marketshare isn’t “marginal” in practice, but something is up with those figures, since overwhelmingly internet hosted services are on top of Linux. Internal servers may be a bit different, but “servers” I’d expect to count internet servers…

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              There are a ton of Internet facing servers, vast majority of cloud instances, and every cloud provider except Microsoft (and their in house “windows” for azure hosting is somehow different, though they aren’t public about it).

              In terms of on premise servers, I’d even say the HPC groups may outnumber internal windows servers. While relatively fewer instances, they all represent racks and racks of servers, and that market is 100% Linux.

              I know a couple of retailers and at least two game studios are keeping at scale windows a thing, but Linux mostly dominates my experience of large scale deployment in on premise scale out.

              It just seems like Linux is just so likely for scenarios that also have lots of horizontal scaling, it is hard to imagine that despite that windows still being a majority share of the market when all is said and done, when it’s usually deployed in smaller quantities in any given place.

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            It’s stated in the synopsis, below where it says you need to pay for the article. Anyway, it might be true as the hosting servers themselves often host up to hundreds of Windows machines. But it really depends on what is measured and the method used, which we don’t know because who the hell has a statista account anyway.

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            since overwhelmingly internet hosted services are on top of Linux

            This is a common misconception. Most internet hosted services are behind a Linux box, but that doesn’t mean those services actually run on Linux.

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        Well, I’ve seen some, but they usually don’t have automatic updates and generally do not have access to the Internet.

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        This is a crowdstrike issue specifically related to the falcon sensor. Happens to affect only windows hosts.

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        It’s only marginal for running custom code. Every large organization has at least a few of them running important out-of-the-box services.

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        Not too long ago, a lot of Customer Relationship Management (CRM) software ran on MS SQL Server. Businesses made significant investments in software and training, and some of them don’t have the technical, financial, or logistical resources to adapt - momentum keeps them using Windows Server.

        For example, small businesses that are physically located in rural areas can’t use cloud based services because rural internet is too slow and unreliable. Its not quite the case that there’s no amount of money you can pay for a good internet connection in rural America, but last time I looked into it, Verizon wanted to charge me $20,000 per mile to run a fiber optic cable from the nearest town to my client’s farm.

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        My current company does and I hate it so much. Who even got that idea in the first place? Linux always dominated server-side stuff, no?

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          Yes, but the developers learned on Windows, so they wrote software for Windows.

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          You should read the saga of when MS bought Hotmail. The work they had to do to be able to run it on Windows was incredible. It actually helped MS improve their server OS, and it still wasn’t as performance when they switched over.

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          In university computer science, in the states, MS server was the main server OS that they taught my class during our education.

          Microsoft loses money to let the universities and students use and learn MS server for free, or at least they did at the time. This had the effect of making a lot of fresh grad developers more comfortable with using MS server, and I’m sure it led to MS server being used in cases where there were better options.

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    Here’s the fix: (or rather workaround, released by CrowdStrike) 1)Boot to safe mode/recovery 2)Go to C:\Windows\System32\drivers\CrowdStrike 3)Delete the file matching “C-00000291*.sys” 4)Boot the system normally

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      It’s disappointing that the fix is so easy to perform and yet it’ll almost certainly keep a lot of infrastructure down for hours because a majority of people seem too scared to try to fix anything on their own machine (or aren’t trusted to so they can’t even if they know how)

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        They also gotta get the fix through a trusted channel and not randomly on the internet. (No offense to the person that gave the info, it’s maybe correct but you never know)

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          Yeah, and it’s unknown if CS is active after the workaround or not (source: hackernews commentator)

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          True, but knowing what the fix might be means you can Google it and see what comes back. It was on StackOverflow for example, but at the time of this comment has been taken offline for moderation - whatever that means.

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        This sort of fix might not be accessible to a lot of employees who don’t have admin access on their company laptops, and if the laptop can’t be accessed remotely by IT then the options are very limited. Trying to walk a lot of nontechnical users through this over the phone won’t go very well.

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          Yup, that’s me. We booted into safe mode, tried navigating into the CrowdStrike folder and boom: permission denied.

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        Might seem easy to someone with a technical background. But the last thing businesses want to be doing is telling average end users to boot into safe mode and start deleting system files.

        If that started happening en masse we would quickly end up with far more problems than we started with. Plenty of users would end up deleting system32 entirely or something else equally damaging.

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          I do IT for some stores. My team lead briefly suggested having store managers try to do this fix. I HARD vetoed that. That’s only going to do more damage.

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        It might not even be that. A lot of places have many servers (and even more virtual servers) running crowdstrike. Some places also seem to have it on endpoints too.

        That’s a lot of machines to manually fix.

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          That is unfortunate but also leads me to a different question

          Why do people like windows server? I’ve had to use it a couple of times for work and although it’s certainly better than just using the desktop windows it’s so heavy compared to running something like Debian

          In our case, the fact we were using windows server actually made it a worse experience for customers aswell because the hardware was not up to it (because budget constraints) so it just chugged and slowed down everything making it a terrible experience for everyone involved (not to mention how often it’d have to be rebooted because a service wouldn’t restart)

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          You can do it over the phone. I just did a few dozen this morning and it was relatively easy.

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            “yes, now open the file explorer. No, that’s internet explorer… Yes, with the files. Now go to this pc… No, I know you are at this pc, but the entry on the left. No that’s the keyboard. On the screen. Where it says this pc, on the left. The left. The left. … That’s the start menu. Okay, let’s try this a different way. On the keyboard, press the windows key and r. No, simultaneously. The windows key is the one with the flag. Yes. R. As in Romeo. Yes I know a window appeared, very good. Now type c colon backslash windows backslash system 32… Yes like the numbers. No, that’s a semicolon. Yes. Shift. On the keyboard. Simultaneously. And another backslash drivers. Click OK. What error? Why did you type that after the colon? It needs to go at the end. Yes, the end. Yes. Yes. Now click OK. What error? Read the text you typed to me. Why didn’t you delete the semicolon? Yes. Yes. What error?! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH”

            yeah, sometimes that’s just not an option…

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        I wouldn’t fix it if it’s not my responsibly at work. What if I mess up and break things further?

        When things go wrong, best to just let people do the emergency process.

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      I’m on a bridge still while we wait for Bitlocker recovery keys, so we can actually boot into safemode, but the Bitkocker key server is down as well…

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      Man, it sure would suck if you could still get to safe mode from pressing f8. Can you imagine how terrible that’d be?

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      Not that easy when it’s a fleet of servers in multiple remote data centers. Lots of IT folks will be spending their weekend sitting in data center cages.

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    This is going to be a Big Deal for a whole lot of people. I don’t know all the companies and industries that use Crowdstrike but I might guess it will result in airline delays, banking outages, and hospital computer systems failing. Hopefully nobody gets hurt because of it.

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    CrowdStrike: It’s Friday, let’s throw it over the wall to production. See you all on Monday!

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    Wow, I didn’t realize CrowdStrike was widespread enough to be a single point of failure for so much infrastructure. Lot of airports and hospitals offline.

    The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) imposed the global ground stop for airlines including United, Delta, American, and Frontier.

    Flights grounded in the US.

    The System is Down

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    The thought of a local computer being unable to boot because some remote server somewhere is unavailable makes me laugh and sad at the same time.

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      I don’t think that’s what’s happening here. As far as I know it’s an issue with a driver installed on the computers, not with anything trying to reach out to an external server. If that were the case you’d expect it to fail to boot any time you don’t have an Internet connection.

      Windows is bad but it’s not that bad yet.

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      A remote server that you pay some serious money to that pushes a garbage driver that prevents yours from booting

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        Not only does it (possibly) prevent booting, but it will also bsod it first so you’ll have to see how lucky you get.

        Goddamn I hate crowdstrike. Between this and them fucking up and letting malware back into a system, I have nothing nice to say about them.

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    I’m so exhausted… This is madness. As a Linux user I’ve busy all day telling people with bricked PCs that Linux is better but there are just so many. It never ends. I think this is outage is going to keep me busy all weekend.

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      Honestly my philosophy these days, when it comes to anything proprietary. They just can’t keep their grubby little fingers off of working software.

      At least this time it was an accident.

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      There is nothing unsafer than local networks.

      AV/XDR is not optional even in offline networks. If you don’t have visibility on your network, you are totally screwed.