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      Tobacco use isn’t in the Constitution. Any state can have a drinking age of 18, perfectly legal. They just get their federal highway funds yanked.

      So it’s tough to tell someone, “Yeah, it’s a right for other adults, just not you.”

      If I had my druthers, I’d raise the national age to 21 when brains are a good bit more developed.

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    I think sometimes about if cars were a thing when the bill of rights was written, they might’ve had an amendment like "travel, being important to a free state, the right to drive an automobile shall not be infringed "

    And then we’d have all sorts of problems where like six year olds would be driving , blind people would be driving, you wouldn’t have any safety standards or environmental standards, etc etc etc. And people would be jerking themselves raw about how it’s great , that freedom is great, they love when their car explodes.

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      And then we’d have all sorts of problems where like six year olds would be driving , blind people would be driving, you wouldn’t have any safety standards or environmental standards, etc etc etc. And people would be jerking themselves raw about how it’s great , that freedom is great, they love when their car explodes.

      I have no agenda here. I just thought your comment was comical and then I saw all of these:

      6 year olds… 😬

      Blind… 😬

      Safety standards… 😬

      Car explodes… 😬

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    18 for everything. “various levels of adulthood” need to go away. Either you’re an adult or not.

    Don’t like it? Prove you actually believe what you say you do and work to raise the draft age to 21.

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        At the same time we’re capable of adult level actions earlier than 18. We regularly have children, kill people, drive, have jobs, have bank accounts, make life altering decisions about sports and school credits… etc.

        The argument for lowering the age of majority is far stronger than the argument for raising it.

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          It is a complicated subject. Medical decisions and voting is something that should be a lower age. However, there is a massive list that should not be pushed on younger people.

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            My point is adulthood comes for us whether the government wants it to or not. The list of things we do as teenagers that are adulting is far larger than the list of things we are mandated to wait for.

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              I understand that my point is the government should protect that class of people instead of exploiting. I think we both agree it is not good either way. It’s just another way we are failing younger people.

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    This is good. Now do the same with alcohol. You can be forced to die in a war at 18 but can’t drink and enjoy the full rights of an adult citizen.

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        Nope, no amendment. Just a mafia style deal you can’t refuse. If a state lowers it’s drinking age they lose federal highway funding.

        Come to think of it, I’m surprised one of these radical republican governors hasn’t done it yet.

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          Ahh, this is that one. Surprised Louisiana hasn’t considering it seems like they always have the worst highway roads.

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      I immediately thought the same thing, but unfortunately there’s no constitutionally guaranteed right to alcohol.

      Yet.

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        No. Supposedly they raised the age to 21 because of drunk driving teens, though I’m not sure what effect it had. In my opinion, the better option regardless is to introduce teens to how to use alcohol responsibly and safely, rather than prohibit until it’s too late.

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          It didn’t have an effect, it was never the teenagers doing most of it. When they studied the fall off that happened it turned out that public awareness campaigns were far more effective than bans or punishment.

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    Don’t you just love how it’s all about states’ rights when it comes to things like abortion, but as soon as it’s gun control, the states’ rights don’t matter.

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      To be fair, gun rights are an actual constitutional right. I don’t think the democrats ever tried to make an amendment to include abortion rights. For them, the threat of losing it was a good campaign issue.

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        The idea that control over your own body and medical decisions can’t be sourced in the Constitution is ridiculous. If we don’t have the right to that then we don’t have the right to anything.

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          Correct. We also don’t have a right to privacy or many other things we all wish we had. A lot of what we rely on is just the court’s interpretation of laws and the constitution. We’ve recently seen how fragile those interpretations can be.

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    The founding writers of the constitution never imagined people would fit hand cannons in their pants.

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    because conservatives get sexually aroused over school shootings and kids dying.

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    From now on, whether or not you are allowed to buy a gun will depend on which groups you check as possible victims for your killing spree.