Former U.S. President and Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump selected Ohio Senator J.D. Vance as his running mate on July 15. The 39-year-old conservative, whose fame ballooned after the publication of his 2016 memoir "Hillbilly Elegy," was announced as Trump's pick for vice president on the first day

Vance is one of Trump’s most vocal supporters and an outspoken critic of U.S. aid to Ukraine.

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Vance has said that it would be “completely irresponsible” for Ukraine to join NATO. He has also argued for the U.S. to focus solely on preventing Chinese expansion, even if that means sacrificing sovereign Ukrainian lands to Russia.

“Any peace settlement is going to require some significant territorial concessions from Ukraine, and you’re gonna have a peace deal, because that’s the only way out of the conflict,” Vance said in February.

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    • Deceptichum@quokk.auEnglish
      63·
      4 months ago

      Good thing it wasn’t as Putin has shown Russia is still a threat to innocent nations who aren’t protected by NATO membership.

      • anticolonialist@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        4 months ago

        NATO has already told Ukraine they will not get NATO membership because they are too corrupt. The exact same rhetoric that every nation on Earth called Ukraine prior to the Russian invasion.

        • YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systemsEnglish
          29·
          4 months ago

          Gee, I wonder if there were any major shake-ups in the Ukrainian government circa 2014 that could have explained this change in tune.

          Ukraine wasn’t able to join NATO because of active territorial disputes regarding Russia’s 2014 illegal annexation of Crimea. The 2022 invasion and intervening Russian-backed fighting in Donestk and Luhansk were naked imperial land grabs trying to force Ukraine back into the Russian sphere of influence despite their democratic processes repeatedly trying to move towards the EU.

          Or in simpler terms, imperialism is actually still bad when Russia does it and it’s weird that you don’t seem to understand that.

          • OBJECTION!@lemmy.mlEnglish
            3·
            4 months ago

            democratic processes

            “Democracic processes,” you mean seizing power through force in a coup and then banning major opposition parties.

            • YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systemsEnglish
              7·
              4 months ago

              Even Yanukovich had been trying to push for EU membership, AKA the guy who was the target of the so-called coup you’re bitching about. He had to shift gears when Putin’s attitude changed and he could no longer split the two, but the whole “euro” part of Euro Maidan was about the sudden shift away from the EU.

        • el_bhm@lemm.eeEnglish
          11·
          4 months ago

          Cool. Corruption is inheritance from russia and nomenclatura.

          Are we liking them facts?

        • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          4 months ago

          So because they are corrupt they have to surrender to Russia and the West isn’t allowed to help them defend themselves? That’s like saying that a person deserves to get shot by the police just because he has a criminal record.

          Also the EU already approved Ukraine’s candidate status for accession and accession negotiations officially opened this year. So if Ukraine does things right they will be a member of the EU in ten years give or take. Guess what article 42.7 in the Treaty of Lisbon is. It’s a mutual defensive clause. So end of the day they wil be protected by the bloc whether they are a NATO member or not.

      • anticolonialist@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        4 months ago

        I’m not going anywhere. I will call out US imperialism and colonialism every chance that I get and I will stand against anybody defending that imperialism.

        • xorEnglish
          24·
          4 months ago

          Russia invades its neighbour, unprovoked, explicitly to seize their agreed sovereign territory

          “Why would America do this?”

            • xorEnglish
              7·
              4 months ago

              I mean, that’s straight up not true lol

              Your claim is that Ukraine - while not at war - was bombing itself? And that would be a legitimate casus belli for Russia to invade them, and then seize that territory for themselves?

              That’s a batshit insane take

                • xorEnglish
                  6·
                  4 months ago

                  Oh silly me, your argument is even worse than I thought!

                  So the “bombing the Donbas” you’re talking about is the previous time Russia declared an unprovoked war against them!

                  “Russia had to invade, because last time they invaded, the Ukrainians fought back. Those bastards!”

                  Edit: as an aside, you somehow still managed to be entirely wrong, despite not even saying anything in your reply directly - the internet isn’t free, it’s extraordinarily expensive to run, and costs the consumer to use their ISP, too!

      • el_bhm@lemm.eeEnglish
        24·
        4 months ago

        Remember, if russia does it, it is NOT:

        1. Facist.
        2. Imperialism.
        • Womble@lemmy.worldEnglish
          16·
          4 months ago

          The irony of someone with the handle anticolonialist spouting talking points in favour of an imperialist land grab where they are literally creating colonies of Russians along the corridor of Ukrainian land between Russia and Crimea is just beautiful.