• OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
    72·
    2 months ago

    That hit was so unprofessional, i.e. it missed, that I would sooner believe it was faked than official. But much more likely the violent rhetoric caused unrest in the person’s mind.

    Even so, the spin machine will figure out how best to “use” it, over the next few days.

    • frickineh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      27·
      2 months ago

      I’m not a conspiracy theorist in the least, but the fact that some random guy in the crowd saw the shooter on the roof but not one of the many Secret Service agents there noticed a sniper has me at least open to the idea that it was fake. It’s not like Trump’s team don’t know that plenty of Republicans are just looking for an excuse to violently support their dear leader.

      But I agree that it’s more likely that someone just snapped.

    • pivot_root@lemmy.worldEnglish
      19·
      2 months ago

      Even so, the spin machine will figure out how best to “use” it, over the next few days.

      Oh, they didn’t even need to wait a few days. Trump himself managed to turn it into a golden ticket for rallying republican support and encouraging his diehard supporters to start another violent insurrection.

      And all he did was stand back up, raise his first, and say “fight” to his crowd. We are so, so fucked.

    • Lemminary@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      2 months ago

      “Oh, <insert left-leaning politician> was assassinated? See, you shouldn’t have tried it on July 13, liberal!”

      I can see it now.

    • Pandantic@midwest.socialEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      That hit was so unprofessional, i.e. it missed, that I would sooner believe it was faked than official.

      Unless when Biden called him later, instead of checking up on him, he said, “That one was a warning shot.”

      For real, though, the fact that it was a 20 year old shooter says to me the kid had mental problems or got indoctrinated. You step into that operation assuming you will die, and what 20yo would do that for his government or money for his family?

      • yggstyle@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        While I have no real taste for dried oranges - I can say fairly certainly that we’re on the tip of a slippery slope on either side. If we step off the current path no good will come of it.

          • yggstyle@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 months ago

            Both are differing degrees or lesser evils. Neither of these candidates is equipped to deal with the impending depression / crash / crisis we are on the doorstep of.

            Make no mistake: A grifter will never put our country first and we would undoubtedly suffer if he took office again - but Biden lacks the resolve to make hard choices and frankly someone holding your hand while you drown isn’t really much different. Both suck and shouldn’t be running. Biden is the obvious choice but I refuse to say better.

            Both are shit. We should aspire to be better than shit.

  • Snapz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    39·
    2 months ago

    Trump after a shooting in Iowa that left one sixth-grader dead and six other staffers and students injured,

    “So surprising to see it here. But, we have to get over it. We have to move forward…”

    • how were the secret service not on the roofs or monitoring the roofs from aerial POV? Most obvious spot for a sniper.

    • the dude interviewed by British journalist right after that says him and group saw man with gun climbing roof, told cops and secret service and neither did anything

    • his first and only focus was his shoes?

    • a man who is a documented coward and narcissist pushed against secret service to face cameras and have his head exposed for a long period of time?

    • secret service ignores protocol to cover and remove him and let’s him vamp and pose

    • straight lines of blood on his face, history with pro wrestling

    • yes, the supposed gunman was killed, but on what day are there not thousands of trump cultists lined up and ready to die if someone tells them they are on a secret mission to help daddy?

    • yes, some in crowd may have been injured, but when has trump shown any hesitation to have pale injured or killed for his personal benefit (January 6th, church protests, etc).

    • his secret service were proven corrupt and involved in cover up measures for trump before (e.g. Deliberately erasing text messages relevant to January 6th)

    • this all happens as project 2025 narrative was taking form hold, leaked video/audio by the day and days before the RNC.

    • watch the footage, down the stairs, secret service is concerned with grabbing and carrying his special red hat? How the fuck would that ever be a concern in an actual emergency?

      • Snapz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        14·
        2 months ago

        You mean once each in the 30 threads discussing the same topic? Yes, I won’t post this response more than once in those threads.

        • Emmie@lemm.eeEnglish
          6·
          2 months ago

          Wow you are so calm and level-headed. I would be tempted for twice at least for a good measure. What if they missed it?

    • TheDannysaur@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      2 months ago

      This is the dumbest shit and we need to fucking grow up a bit. These “questions” are asinine and not that hard to explain.

      1. Not denying the incident was reported, but there’s a heavy insinuation here that this was set up or manufactured. If so… They needed an entire Secret Service detail, local event police and everyone standing by to be in on it. A couple hundred people are going to be involved and no one leaks it?

      2. “Supposed” gunman. I like how you pivot from “this is probably set up” to “ok even if it was real Trump is capable of worse”

      3. Again, the insinuation of an inside job here. We’re going to involve a hundred or more people and no one thought it would be a problem to kill a bystander? Or the gunman was so good he killed a specific plant? And they had a 100% success rate… No one heard the plan and thought “oh this is a bad idea” and spoke out about it?

      4. Big difference between deleting text messages and MURDERING AN AMERICAN to further a political agenda.

      5. Yes. Things happen all the time. Trump people are saying this is to distract from Biden being inept. There’s always a convenient time.

      6. Yes you dumbshit he was concerned about his hat because they already had the all clear. The shooter got taken out in seconds. They wouldn’t have moved Trump. And they all were saying it was all clear. Also have you ever seen people in an absolute panic? Not the most rational state. Same thing with his shoes. That’s ALSO why he took the photo op. They all dove on top of him. They figured out the shooter’s location and took him down before Trump even got up.

      There’s pictures of the fucking bullet in flight. So either that was ALSO manufactured (a member of the press willingly heard the plan ahead of time and doctored a photo or they actually shot a bullet inches away from Trumps head AND captured it). But no let’s just get Trump, a bumbly ass fuck to orchestrate this perfectly. I’m sure he had it a planned to go down, and everyone covered him and he pulled out a razor blade, cut his ear, and put it away, all perfectly executed and no one caught anything on camera from any of the dozens of angles.

      This shit is so fucking stupid and I’m so sick of hearing about it. These points all rely on the most ass backwards way of thinking where dozens of people are in on this conspiracy and relies on all of them bring cool with killing someone to make it good for Trump.

      Get this shit outta here. This doesn’t deserve the pixels on the screen used to illuminate this nonsense. Be a fucking grown up. We’re going to have to figure out a real way to beat Trump, not pretend this was some false flag bullshit. Accept reality. Be a goddamn adult.

      I’m not even saying you’re wrong for questioning, but I am saying you are wrong because the sheer volume of things that would need to occur for this theory to be even remotely possible is so ridiculous, I would consider aliens an equally plausible situation.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    32·
    2 months ago

    Collins followed up with another tweet calling for the local county prosecutor to “immediately file charges against Joseph R. Biden for inciting an assassination.”

    I thought that he was the president, congressman. What did SCOTUS just decide?

  • Aeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    2 months ago

    I don’t think an official presidential assassin would miss 12 times

    • The Snark Urge@lemmy.worldEnglish
      15·
      2 months ago

      “An in-group that the law protects but does not bind, and an out-group that the law binds but does not protect.”

      If Biden did an assassination, the supreme court would find a way to determine it was not an official act.

      When Trump does assassinations, the same court will (deliberate future tense now) find these things permissible.

      That’s how conservatism has always worked, and this is the same. But worse.