Same energy: Liberals lecturing me about how I’m “privileged” and “working against my best interests” for not sucking off the ghouls who brazenly support and conduct the imprisonment and deportation of my actual fucking family members

Saying this to a Palestinian is many layers of fucked. I’m not sure how liberals can live with themselves.

  • zea
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    102 days ago

    The fact that some people think I advocate for doing the right thing for attention… Mate, I can’t help that doing the right thing makes me look good, now can we just fucking do it already?

    • LinkOpensChest.wavOPM
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      72 days ago

      A lot of people can’t seem to fathom actually caring about doing the right thing. I’m never sure how to explain to someone that they should genuinely care about the well-being of other people.

      • zea
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        52 days ago

        As an autistic person, I’ve had to logic my way through empathy, so I’m pretty good at moral reasoning and getting past factors that make problems seem more distant. I might not give the same emotional reaction as seeing it in person, but someone “becoming a statistic” still makes me feel a little bad. Now, I definitely don’t do as much as I really should, but I do at least care.

        I wonder if allistic people, with their intuitive empathy, just never bother to push beyond their empathetic and moral intuition? Distancing strategies seem far too effective on them, and cognitive dissonance is great at promoting distancing strategies.

        • LinkOpensChest.wavOPM
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          62 days ago

          I wonder if allistic people, with their intuitive empathy, just never bother to push beyond their empathetic and moral intuition? Distancing strategies seem far too effective on them, and cognitive dissonance is great at promoting distancing strategies.

          This is a very compelling idea. It seems quite plausible that an allistic person who hasn’t had to navigate empathy in the same way you have might be more susceptible to fascist propaganda that portrays certain groups as a threat.

          I’m not autistic, but I often wonder if the trauma I’ve experienced hasn’t made me understand the importance of empathy on a more personal level. If I had been raised comfortably in some suburb with a two-stall garage and all my needs met, it’s quite possible I’d be a completely different person.

          I definitely don’t do as much as I really should

          Same tbh

          • zea
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            22 days ago

            I suspect autism is why I care because I did grow up in that suburb, so I’d expect me to be apathetic, but I’m not.

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              22 days ago

              Side note: I think people are capable of empathy even if they live in a suburb. People are complicated. It’s just probably harder if one has more privilege or is not part of a marginalized group.

              • zea
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                22 days ago

                I know it’s not about suburbs, it’s about privilege and distance from the bad

  • @Sasha
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    52 days ago

    I’ve been thinking about this a bit today, and I think you’re right at least in regards to the argumentative liberals we see online. Irl liberals in my experience are just sort of in the first stages of the pipeline towards the left (might be different in other countries I’m in Aus).

    The worst liberals will throw around the word tankie as an excuse to treat you like vermin, even if you despise tankies and have never once expressed a tankie point. You can’t talk about tolerance if your first move when someone disagrees with you is to shit on them in order to feel superior…

    • LinkOpensChest.wavOPM
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      I know what you mean, and I feel like there are a lot of people in my own community who would identify as liberal but are actually leftist in ideology. I feel like online it’s the reverse – lotta people who call themselves leftist but do nothing but defend liberalism.