• Flying Squid
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    634 days ago

    Of course we know why. So that evolution could result in the universe’s most perfect being.

  • @OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
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    234 days ago

    The “spandrel hypothesis” is the front runner explanation. Essentially we didn’t evolve to have chins but rather evolved other things that are helpful, and the chin is a byproduct of that other evolution. Not harmful so it didn’t get selected away, but not helpful.

  • @mearce@programming.dev
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    674 days ago

    TIL chins are only chins because they stick out. I had always considered the front of a lower jaw to be a “chin”.

  • Mossy Feathers (They/Them)
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    724 days ago

    This is why it bothers me when artists add chins to animalistic characters. It looks so wrong. An example:

    Like, shit. Cool character design but you gave the cat lady a chin. Cats don’t have chins, why did you give her a chin?

    • @lauha@lemmy.one
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      1274 days ago

      They don’t have opposable thumbs, go into night clubs, walk bipedally or have those wing things either, why is it the chin that bothers you?

      That character is mostly a cat skinned human.

      • Mossy Feathers (They/Them)
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        Many animals, including most felids and canids, have a fifth toe (aka dew claw), which could potentially evolve into a thumb. You don’t normally see it on domestic dogs though, because if I’m not mistaken, it usually gets cut off when they’re a puppy due to it being weak and having a tendency to get caught on things.

        Alternatively, there is polydactylism in cats, which can give them extra toes that can help them grab things (I’ve seen a video of a polydactyl cat using it’s extra foretoe like a thumb, though I can’t find it). It seems possible that, overtime, an extra foretoe like that might eventually provide enough of a evolutionary benefit for it to become a standard feature.

        If cats evolved human-like intelligence, they’d absolutely have night clubs of some kind. That said, I’m not convinced that cats don’t already have human-like intelligence and aren’t just choosing to not use it, but that’s beside the point.

        Walking bipedally is something a lot of smaller mammals can do as well, it just isn’t their normal mode of locomotion because their bodies aren’t currently designed for it. Going the evolution route again, however, and it’s possible that a species might eventually decide to stand up like humans did. Edit: I forgot about birds, dinosaurs and semi-bipedal mammals like the pangolin. Birds and pre-historic theropods walked on two legs, and pangolins have heavy tails they can use to balance on their hind legs so their forelegs are free to dig at ant mounds. So humans aren’t the only animals that walk on two legs.

        The wing things are part of her clothing.


        You’re correct that being bothered by a chin alone is strange, but,

        A) people have weird things that bother them, sometimes illogically

        B) I kinda look at anthropomorphic animals as being evolved from their real world counterparts, so I tend to rationalize things in regards to how they might have evolved. It makes it more believable for me.

        C) iirc, in the context of the movie that specific character is from, thats actually someone’s VR avatar. As such, it makes sense to make human concessions like opposable thumbs, five fingers and toes (cats technically have five toes on each forepaw, four toes on each hind paw), walking plantigrade, etc. A chin seems like an odd concession to make. From the article, it doesn’t really give humans any really evolutionary advantage so it’s not like you’re gonna be unable to do something because you don’t have a chin; and based on what I’ve seen in the furry community, chins on anthros doesn’t really seem to have much of an aesthetic appeal either (otherwise nearly every fursona would have an obvious chin).

        D) It just looks weird. Idk man, it just looks weird to me.

        That said, I don’t tend to mind hybrids or mythical creatures like gryphons, dragons, dragon-cats, or whatever, so idk. It just looks weird to me and I guess the thing about humans being the only ones with chins is a explanation and justification for why I find it weird-looking.

        • @Zess@lemmy.world
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          524 days ago

          That’s a lot of words just to try and justify posting a picture from your furry porn collection.

        • @lauha@lemmy.one
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          284 days ago

          You answered your own question in your own question. Cats could potentially evolve a chin just like they could evolve an opposable thumb

  • @erp@lemmy.world
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    544 days ago

    If I am not mistaken, according to the grammatical scrolls, having a chin makes everyone … chinese

  • @murmelade@lemmy.ml
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    494 days ago

    I was gonna say elephants have chins too, as I’m re-watching old QI seasons and they brought up this fact, but upon further research their chins aren’t true chins with a bony protrusion.

        • @Tak@lemmy.ml
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          44 days ago

          By DNA analysis that was completely on the table till they went extinct.

          • @SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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            23 days ago

            No “till”, plenty of living beings have vestigial elements that were positive at some point of their history, yet no longer are, but are still maintained because there isn’t evolutionary pressure to get rid of them.

            • @Tak@lemmy.ml
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              13 days ago

              “They” was towards neanderthals not vestigial elements. They are extinct.

              • @SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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                23 days ago

                Homo Sapiens develop a mutation XYZ that makes them not be attracted towards Neanderthals -> Neanderthals go extinct -> XYZ is NOW vestigial.

                • @Tak@lemmy.ml
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                  The genes were from Neanderthals not to make them unattractive and they’re also not vestigial. One is a very common gene related to blood clotting and can cause a higher risk of heart disease.

                  In other words, humans were fucking Neanderthals and we know it because of DNA. If they had never gone extinct it is without question the boinking would have continued.

      • @Snowclone@lemmy.world
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        133 days ago

        I’m sorry, but this isn’t correct, adult human females have breasts to hide when they are in estrus, by always being swollen, it’s called hidden estrose, it’s a whole thing. This has a lot of data backing it up. I KNOW I’M SPELLING IT WRONG! PROOFREADING IS THE LAST RETREAT OF COWARDS!!!

      • Rob T Firefly
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        103 days ago

        they are too large for babies to feed.

        Then it seems I must have seen some of them fake it really convincingly for some reason.