• Anarch157a@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    According to the open-source intelligence (OSINT) site Molfar, Ukraine has sunk or damaged nearly 60 ships of the Russian Navy.

    How, for fuck sake, Russia managed to lose 60 ships to a country that has NO NAVY ?!?

    Holy! Shit!

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      Drones and missiles. Air power long ago surpassed ship power and a landmass makes one hell of an aircraft carrier.

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      Marine drones. Basically remote control exploding speed boats, some with rockets on them. They basically attack like hyaenas bringing down a zebra.

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      That is genuinely amazing, losing 60 ships to a country without an actually big navy. Invading Ukraine to have warm waters for your navy, and you still lose.

      This is Russia’s “don’t invade Russia in winter”. Don’t launch a naval assault on Ukraine, apparently.

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      You really gotta count how many cheap boat Ukrainians lost trying to sink 60 ships. Ofc they (suicide boats) are much, much, much cheaper and cause no crew casualties being remotely controlled. So it is super cost effective, And most importantly safe, but if you count pure numbers i am sure Ukrainian losses of those boats are massively higher.

      But the fact that russians can still use their missles ships to launch missiles is a big issue. Even if there are fewer of those ships, its not 0 :(… Yet

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        You really gotta count how many cheap boat Ukrainians lost trying to sink 60 ships.

        That’s like counting cruise missiles as aircrafts.

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          You missed the point (and i should have perhaps been clearer), the chap was saying “no navy”, i am pointing out that suicide drones are still part of that navy and Ukrainians had 15000 personal at the start of the war in the navy.

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        In the time it would take the current Russian defense industry to build and deploy one of these new missile ships, Ukraine could build and deploy a thousand of these little RC Boat Bombs from 1/1000th the cost.

        They’re literally making these boats out of rebuilt engines and 3d printed parts. Russia won’t recover from this war in our lifetime as long as they embrace Putin style leadership.

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          If they keep this war up, with the current losses in manpower, for another 8 to 9 months, they won’t have enough Russian males to repopulate the country. Putin may be effectively killing Russia as a country. Unfortunately Ukraine may hit that point sooner since they have fewer people.

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          Thats why i said, they are amazing value for money. But sould be interesting to know just how many boats it takes to take out 60 or so ships

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            From previous videos I’ve seen it seems like they send 3-6 of these vehicles at a ship each time.