• Azathoth@kbin.run
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    86
    ·
    5 months ago

    Sarek is on there. Really. Sarek. The first one. Sarek was an awful dad to at minimum three children.

    • Blackout@kbin.run
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      5 months ago

      Well he did convince Kirk to go rescue his son after they shot him into a planet. That’s big dad love there.

      • Azathoth@kbin.run
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        23
        ·
        5 months ago

        Yep, I fully agree. At the tail end of Sarek’s life we learn he loved Spock. He doesn’t tell or show Spock ever, which would qualify him as a terrible parent by human standards but he’s a Vulcan so maybe that’s not how he should be judged. What Sarek also doesn’t do is end his feud with Spock which I think is a perfectly good standard on which to judge a Vulcan parent. So while I love Sarek as a character he’s a bad dad.

        • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          5 months ago

          He told his wife not to show love for Spock, even though she was allowed to openly love Burnham. That’s child abuse.

  • AGD4@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    41
    ·
    5 months ago

    Lmao. Somehow Paris with his bastardized mutant offspring qualifies him as a better dad than Worf.

  • mercano@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    5 months ago

    Rom inspired his son to enter into a very successful career, just probably not in the way he would have liked. Then Nog inspired Rom to change career tracks and become a station engineer, so I guess it all worked out.

    • thejoker954@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      4 months ago

      The Ferengi culture being what it is/was really elevates Rom’s parenting to s-tier. Pretty much as soon as he realized things could be different and he could break the cycle he does.

      And Nog for sure gets the ‘Best Son’ award. Nog getting Rom to become an engineer lets him shine so bright he gets Leeta which leads him to becoming a Grand Nagus who is willing to try and make the Ferengi a better people.

    • aeronmelon@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      29
      ·
      5 months ago

      He tried, but he kinda failed and never went out of his way to make up for it despite having multiple opportunities. Not a bad person, just a bad father.

      • kaitco@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        22
        ·
        5 months ago

        To be fair, it’s not like he purposefully planned for Alexander. He was just sort of thrust upon him and he wasn’t in a position to really adapt well.

      • jaybone@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        5 months ago

        Also his kid was kind of… I don’t know, special?

        I’m trying to figure out who Riley’s kid was?

    • El_guapazo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      20
      ·
      5 months ago

      In cultural context, worf was a probably a progressive dad. But his kid was even more human than he.

    • MajorHavoc@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      edit-2
      5 months ago

      He’s not entirely terrible in the episodes where his son appears. But Worf has been in around a dozen seasons of Star Trek (TNG, DS9, TNG Movies), and his son has been in like 3 episodes.

      There’s reasonable TV production reasons for this, but it’s one of those oversights that feels really glaring on a second watch through.

      So mathematically, Worf is the worst absent father imaginable.

    • data1701d (He/Him)@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      5 months ago

      At one point, Worf dumps Alexander with Worf’s adopted human parents because he feels like he can’t take care of Alexander (with the stimulus being his struggle to handle his son’s misbehavior at school), and Alexander has a really difficult time.

  • autonomous@startrek.website
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    Worf was great with O’Brien’s kid. 🤷‍♂️

    His relationship with Alexander was about what you would expect when you just find out you even had a kid and then your partner dies right in front of the two of you before you’ve had the slightest chance to bond, as well as the challenges of being an Autistic dad to a child with ADHD. 🤷‍♂️