Hello, I would like to complain that filling out a form to complain is exactly the kind of thing that Gene Roddenberry would be against so I refuse to do it. /s
Right column, second checkbox from the bottom.
Please submit this complaint on the official complaint form
LMAO
Hair (not Pike)
Hair (Pike)
“I get too wet looking at Pike”
Other: Not enough Klingon boy bandI actually thought that scene was a missed opportunity to inject a Klingon operatic bit!
How are you going to have two for Janeway but no mention of siskos war crimes or martial law. Smdh
Because I can live with it.
Computer, erase that entire personal log.
Touchè
I understood that reference
No man is an island
Klingon continuity is the only thing on here that can get me riled.
Faith of the Heart is… whatever. What Janeway did to Tuvix, I definitely wish didn’t happen that way, but I can get over it.
But dammit stop fucking up Klingons, please. TOS gets a pass (and Enterprise, whatever its other problems, retconned a continuity fix for that.) But every Klingon fuckup after that is inexcusable. (Some more inexcusable than others.)
(Sorry. Sorry. I’ll go take ten deep slow breaths now.)
Which fuckup, except for DIS season 1?
Any time they bleed red instead of fuchsia is an unforgivable violation of the sacred canon.
DIS season 1 is the worst Klingon continuity issue, but the Chris Pine Star Trek movie Klingons weren’t like other Klingons either. Enough so that the fanbase had to start speculating as to how to resolve that inconsistency.
The Kelvin line of movies is 100% non canon in my head. It’s good they made a separate parallel universe, so I can pretend it never happened and just go on enjoying the rest of the trek
Wait, so now KLINGONs have a Bird of Prey?!
Deep breaths no, it’s fine, I’m over it now. Those breathing exercises really work.
I have a problem with the Kelvin timeline. Specifically how they depicted the Kobayashi Maru sequence. No, I don’t care if Spock programmed it. My issue is that Kirk’s behavior stank. He straight up cheated, but even worse, he was smug about it. That didn’t show leadership potential at all. That was conduct unbecoming of an officer.
I’d always had it in my head that Kirk simply disagreed with the test philosophically. It’s a simple scene to set up. Kobayashi Maru tests officers to see how they deal with a losing path in a simulation of a deterministic universe, but especially to reveal the quality of their character. But Kirk doesn’t believe in fate. He believes in a quantum universe, where infinite possibilities spring from the vacuum every instant. In my mind, Kirk wouldn’t simply reprogram the hostile ships’ shields to drop at an exact moment, then just line up his shots. That’s still determinism! Instead he would subtly reprogram the simulation to account for random chance, and depend upon his skill to beat the odds against whatever the scenario might throw at him. Examining his changes to the code would reveal not a spoiled rotten, cheating, nepotism brat, but a confident leader with a fundamental difference in personal philosophy for approaching the Universe, and furthermore, who simultaneously argued that the Kobayashi Maru was a flawed exercise, while generously offering a patch to improve it. That’s captain material.
That scene would have made me lose all respect for Kirk if I regarded it as canon, so I can’t. I would never follow a man like that into the unknown, no matter his supposed tactical brilliance. No disrespect to any of the actors. It’s just bad writing. Beyond that, I’ve got no problem with Kelvin beyond minor quibbles.
I understand where you’re coming from.
Another way to look at it though, is Kirk wanted to draw attention to the ridiculousness of the test. He was making a bold statement that his intention wasn’t to “cheat” but to show the test was stupid by rubbing it in their faces. He was saying if you’re going to fix it so I can’t win, I’m going to fix it so no one can lose.
I have my issues with the Kelvin timeline. And to be honest I think the writing could have been better in that scene. But I would prefer they replace the ending of movie two. The reactor sacrifice thing went away past just a nod to previous movies into lazy writing. And the blood thing created SO many future plot holes…
This is how I see it. Reprogramming the test was a protest, and protests should be loud and obvious. A subtle change that made the test just barely passable would have just looked like academic dishonesty.
Yeah the more thought about it, you also can’t compare “canon” Kirk to the Kelvin Kirk. Expecting one that grew up without a dad to act the same…
That’s very true, Kelvin Kirk is much more obnoxious than I believe prime Kirk would have been as a cadet. I’m not even sure Kelvin Kirk has the necessary charm to argue his way out of trouble the way prime Kirk did. If the attack on Vulcan hadn’t interrupted, I could see the academy authorities coming down pretty hard on him.
The Kobayashi Maru sequence is a perfect summation of everything wrong with Kelvin Kirk. He’s basically a fratboy. He just lies and cheats his way through problems by the seat of his pants with no forethought or consideration. Actual TOS Kirk is an incredibly smart, educated and thoughtful leader who constantly questions his own beliefs and motivations. He understands the burden and the cost of leadership, and always strives to meet that burden, and he truly believes in the Federations mission to be build a better world for all.
This is why I love Strange New Worlds. SMW Chris Pike is, genuinely, the best version of Kirk in any Star Trek. Smart, thoughtful, emotionally intelligent, cares deeply about his crew, but also funny and likable. And, when need be, kind of a badass.
Specify if comic sans! You got me!
We’re calling out Comic Sans, but not Papyrus?
Android slaves in Picard conflicts with TNG canon.
Trapped tardigrades for propulsion in Disco conflicts with Voyager canon.
Those are my complaints.
Android slaves in Picard conflicts with TNG canon.
I blame Voyager.
Hm, not sure what you mean.
Are there android slaves in voyager?
Not quite, but in “Author, Author” a bunch of repurposed EMH Mark 1 are seen mining dilithium back home while obviously not being very happy about it.
Wait, people don’t like Faith of the Heart?
People detest Faith of the Heart
People with no faith of the heart
I used to not like it, but then I liked it.
Now it’s my favorite part of Enterprise
This needs a love checkbox. Because, seriously, I love Pike’s hair, and I really need a place to complain about it.
That’s a different form
…of love
I dislike Discovery, not true to Gene’s vision.
It stopped being sci-fi and started being fantasy when they started with magical tardigrades and “time bugs”. The rest plays like a space marines series.
Edit: also the spark and flame throwers on the bridge make it look like GWAR concert.
Thankfully TOS never did any fantasy stuff like galactic barriers, Trelane, massive green hands in space, or Abraham Lincoln. That wouldn’t have been true to Gene’s vision.
I’m not a fan of Disco either, but tardigrades and time bugs are really low on my list of complaints. Star Trek did lots of even whackier stuff over the last 60 years (or did everyone forget the “Fun with DNA” episodes of the 90s?). In fact, that time bug episode was probably the best 32nd century Disco episode. Which is a low bar, but anyway.
I guess my issues with stuff like the tardigrade, time bug, spore drive, etc. is that it’s just taking something from earth and putting it in space and saying it’s the “space version”. It’s so lazy and stupid. At least TOS usually had some interesting reasoning behind why these things were happening or they were different enough from anything on earth that at least they felt novel and innovative.
what about the special needs holograms that fail if you blink at them in the wrong way. What the hell was that about?
This is what happens when a stupid person tries to write a clever character. There’s no actual intelligence it’s all just stupid magic loopholes that our character knows for some random reason that makes no actual logical sense.
Gene would have loved Discovery because it let characters say “fuck” and there’s nothing and no one Gene hated more than the censors.
Which Trek has too much chest hair?
You tell me!
That’s not too much. We only get shirtless Picard like twice…!
i guess
We’re still in not enough territory
I went to a celtic festival earlier today and there was a (male presenting) person in a dress you would expect to see on a docudrama about Jack the Ripper.
Inside this lady of the evening dress was the hariest person I have ever seen in a dress. Take that dark dense patch in the center of rikers chest, put that all over the exposed breast area, the upper back, arms, huge beard, very dense hairy legs. And all of it fiery orange.
That might be approaching “too much” territory, but I gotta say, what we have seen on star trek so far has been alopecia by comparison.
What if I don’t like the new movies because jj Abrahms can’t direct for shit?
Checkmark lens flares?
Good call.
Try Beyond. He had basically no involvement.
I’ve seen it, it’s definitely the best one.
good of you to include pike’s hair as a complaint, that way we know who to space
Detest, Voyager, missing/extra pips.
Notes: WHERE IS HARRY’S PROMOTION?!
This also grinds my gears, especially after so many officers die during the course of the series. So many junior officer ranks are time-defined promotions (in real life) and even if they weren’t time based, slots opened up due to all the people dying.
