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Vladimir Putin has demanded that Kyiv cede more land, withdraw troops deeper inside its own country, and drop its Nato bid in order for him to end Russia’s war in Ukraine.
Putin’s fresh ceasefire demands were issued as envoys from more than 90 countries, including Ukraine, convene in Switzerland this weekend to discuss a western-led peace plan. Russia is not invited to the conference and the president’s remarks on Friday were likely to have been timed as a spoiler to that summit.
Speaking with diplomats at the Russian foreign ministry, Putin publicly updated his terms for ending the war in Ukraine for the first time since he launched a full-scale invasion in February 2022, when he demanded regime change in Kyiv and the country’s “demilitarisation”.
The US defence secretary, Lloyd Austin, said Putin was in “no position” to make demands on Ukraine and could end the war he had started “today if he chose to do that.”
Hey here’s an idea: instead of telling Putin to end the war himself, how bout if NATO DOES THE ONE FUCKING JOB IT WAS CREATED TO DO?
You realize that Nato is a defense alliance, dedicated to protecting other member states. Ukraine is NOT a member of Nato. And cannot currently join Nato, because only a country not at war can join.
It has been said that the literal minute this war ends, Ukraines application is all but already passed. But that can’t happen until they end the war. Which means either Putin loses, and goes home, Putin takes all of Ukraine 100% defeated and absorbed into russia, or Ukraine wins the war on their terms.
Until then, Nato is mostly bound to stay out of foreign affairs by their own mission statement
Exactly this. People are so deluded that NATO aren’t a world police force and isn’t just a pact to protect its members is unreal
Then they are fucking morons and deserve the nukes. Only feckless pussies sit there and watch the imperial force roll over a country and say “welp, cant do anything about it because they’re not our buddies!” These motherfuckers will break all kinds of “regulations” if some billionaire asks for it, so I’m not buying it. “Ukraine can join after the war” is sheer fucking insanity.
Feel free to join Ukraine as a voluntary fighter. Many have done so. Or keep spouting shit here about others. Put your money where your mouth is, Sir Feckless.
Aaaawwww arent you just adorable!
Any response other than “I already have” or “I donate resources” paints you as an armchair hypocrite who doesn’t have the credentials to understand, let alone have an opinion about this conflict.
You my friend, are the one who is adorable.
Tell me you know nothing about nuclear warfare without saying you don’t know nothing about nuclear warfare.
Either that or you really want to see the whole earth in ashes.
No, I fully understand. I just dont act like a weak, pathetic Putin apologist telling Ukraine to fuck off when they know damn well that it doesnt stop with Ukraine. I swear to fucking Cthulhu the entire world has turned into a bunch of dormat pussies just waiting to get shoved into gas chambers.
Fuck
Okay, tough guy. Why don’tcha get off of Lemmy and go fight in Ukraine? After all, someone who isn’t a doormat pussy (such as yourself) would surely love to do their part in fighting Russia…
…Right? Or are you just here to insult everyone like a raging asshole?
Yeah, but you do understand, that nuking can’t be a solution?
I didnt say it was a solution; I’m saying it is the expected outcome for doormats.
World War is not the solution you think it is
Can’t do anything? Where have you been for the past 2 years? The west has lead the most massive material aid program since world war 2
Let’s all send Angela Merkel a big flaming poop basket for ensuring that didn’t happen when they had the chance.
I know so little about her work as germanys chancler, that I have no ability to have an opinion of her.
https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/ukraine-how-merkel-prevented-ukraine-s-nato-membership-a-der-spiegel-reconstruction-a-c7f03472-2a21-4e4e-b905-8e45f1fad542
https://www.dw.com/en/merkel-stands-by-past-ukraine-nato-decision-after-zelenskyy-criticism/a-61359003
NATO is a defensive pact, not a global army. Its job is to keep its member countries safe and peaceful. NATO will not attack Russia unless Russia does so first by attacking a NATO country. Ukraine is currently not in NATO (though they wish to be) and as such NATO will not be involved. The individual countries, of course, can help support Ukraine but that’s about it.
Which is?
Protect a member nation from invasion. So I’m not sure how they can help in this instance.
They’re doing the best they can with the little amount of rope they have.