A Tesla was in its self-driving mode when it crashed into a parked patrol vehicle responding to a fatal crash in Orange County Thursday morning, police said. The officer was on traffic control duty…

A Tesla was in its self-driving mode when it crashed into a parked patrol vehicle responding to a fatal crash in Orange County Thursday morning, police said.

The officer was on traffic control duty blocking Orangethorpe Avenue in Fullerton for an investigation into a suspected DUI crash that left a motorcyclist dead around 9 p.m. Wednesday when his vehicle was struck.

A Fullerton Police Department spokesperson said the officer was standing outside his vehicle around midnight when he saw a Tesla driving in his direction and not slowing down.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
    116·
    5 months ago

    It really doesn’t help that the media isn’t putting “Self-Driving” Mode in quotes since it isn’t fucking self-driving.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        44·
        5 months ago

        Tesla calls it “Full Self Driving” and it’s a lie. So capitalize it and put it in quotes, rather than call it self-drive mode like that’s an actual thing.

        • icy_mal@lemmy.world
          19·
          5 months ago

          The actual name: Full self driving (supervised) is so shady. Supervised is just a less crappy sounding way to indicate that you will have to take over and drive sometimes. So sometimes the car drives itself and sometimes you drive. So partial self driving, partial human driving. I’m surprised they didn’t call it “Partial Full Self Driving”. That would certainly amp up the trolling factor and really separate the true believers who would come out defending it with Olympic level mental gymnastics.

    • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
      10·
      5 months ago

      It’s “self-driving”, not “self-stopping”. Luckily the police were able to assist with cruiser-based rapid deceleration.

    • Lileath
      9·
      5 months ago

      Technically it is self-driving but just in the sense that it doesn’t need any external power sources like horses to pull it.

    • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
      90·
      5 months ago

      The victims involved in crashes aren’t always rich. People in other cars or pedestrians and cyclists can be injured by these mistakes.

    • garretble@lemmy.worldEnglish
      50·
      5 months ago

      If only it were that simple. WE are all the test subjects in this case whether we like it or not.

    • Revan343@lemmy.ca
      16·
      5 months ago

      I mean, testing new technology wasn’t really the issue here, the name of Tesla’s ‘self driving’ mode is just a lie. This is an idiot driver who should have been paying attention and wasn’t.

      But we already knew he was an idiot, he did buy a Tesla.

  • BigMacHole@lemm.ee
    46·
    5 months ago

    That must have been SO scary for the cop! He wouldn’t know whether to shoot the car or the passenger!

  • bitwolf@lemmy.one
    27·
    5 months ago

    They give so much lenience to Tesla.

    Yet Cruise was kicked out of California for someone else hitting a pedestrian into the Cruise vehicle and running. This was while also providing dashcam footage to capture the assailant.

  • Buffalox@lemmy.world
    26·
    5 months ago

    I just heard from Enron Musk that it crashed into the patrol car way more safely than a human would have done.
    Also according to Enron Musk Full self driving has been working since 2017, and is in such a refined state now, that you wouldn’t believe how gracefully it crashed into that patrol car. It was almost like a car ballet, ending in a small elegant piruette.

    As Enron Musk recently stated, in a few months we should have Tesla Robo Taxies in the streets, and you will be able to observe these beautiful events regularly yourself.

    Others say that’s ridiculous, he is just trying to save Enron, but that’s too late.

    • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      12·
      5 months ago

      All I do at night is open my garage door to let my car out. A few months later here I’m a millionaire. Thank you full self driving Roboenron 😍

      • Buffalox@lemmy.world
        6·
        5 months ago

        Yes I remember that, and then he has repeated every year since, that they will be ready next year. But THIS year he changed his tune somewhat, and claimed it was a matter of months.
        How is this con man not in jail?

          • Buffalox@lemmy.world
            1·
            5 months ago

            He is very good at what he does, being a con man.
            But I think step one is to be a malignant narcissist, having such an oversized ego and disregard for others, that you actually believe you deserve it.

            Apart from that I can’t really explain it, except IMO the stockholders that gave him that bonus are morons, that let themselves be exploited.

  • NameTaken@lemmy.world
    12·
    5 months ago

    Ugh I know people feel strongly about FSD and Tesla. As some one who uses it ( and still pays attention hands on wheels when activated) when FSD is active as soon as it sees anything resembling emergency lights it will beep and clearly disengage. I am not sure, but it’s possible this person probably is just using Tesla as a scape goat for their own poor driving. However in my experience it will force the driver to take control when emergency lights are recognized specifically to avoid instances like this.

    • Joelk111@lemmy.world
      7·
      5 months ago

      Doesn’t Tesla usually look at the logs for a situation like this, so we’ll know shortly?

      • Matty_r@programming.dev
        25·
        5 months ago

        “As you can see by looking at the logs, the FSD was disengaged 276ms prior to the crash, therefore the driver is at fault” /s

    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
      5·
      5 months ago

      Assuming something was on, I’m not even convinced it was FSD and it could have easily been AP.

      The media and police get that wrong more often than right, and the article isn’t even specifically naming either one.

        • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
          1·
          5 months ago

          I can’t imagine a scenario where they’d be on FSD or AP pressing the accelerator AND looking at their phone.

          It’s one thing to press it because it’s hesitant or something but that would usually mean you’ve presses it because it’s not doing what you want which means you were watching.

          Him admitting he was on his phone (if truthful) would mean he was pressing the accelerator thus overriding the input AND not paying attention.

          It’s a stretch to far.

          If he lied about the phone to try and blame AP/FSD then that could make sense.

    • vxx@lemmy.world
      2·
      5 months ago

      Thanks for the tip, going to flash my blue flashlight at teslas from now on.

      • NameTaken@lemmy.world
        3·
        5 months ago

        Yeah sure if that’s what makes you happy… 👍. Nothing like blinding random people in cars in your spare time.

        • vxx@lemmy.world
          1·
          5 months ago

          No, not the driver, the faulty sensors and programming that should’ve never been approved for the road.

          • NameTaken@lemmy.world
            1·
            5 months ago

            Wait so how is it faulty and bad programming if it disengages when emergency vehicles are present? You’d prefer it to stay on in emergency situations?