42 Dems voted for this nonsense.
Vote Blue no matter who!
Probably still better than the fascist GOP alternatives though
Yet neither is worthy of support.
This attitude is why we keep getting pulled further to the right.
That’s literally what voting for the lesser of two evils does.
If you want to start moving to the left, you need to vote for a left wing party.
Splitting the vote isn’t going to win you any elections.
Giving up the vote isn’t going to turn the country left.
If you say that as a US resident, you either don’t understand how our electoral system works, or you’re trying to push some fifth column bullshit.
Your electoral system will not magically change and improve.
Please by all means keep doing the same thing you’ve always done, it’s not like America is one of the most right wing countries in the world and shifts further right each year regardless of who is in charge.
Please name a left leaning party in the US that has a realistic chance of beating Trump and I’ll vote for them
You have none.
And you will continue to never have one if every leftist blindly votes for the Dems.
Or vote farther left in the primaries, dragging the dems left kicking and screaming
True but it is sad that the only left leaning party (that can get elected at least) still has members and a president ok with what they are seeing.
For sure better than literal Nazis but we need to do better.
Maybe, but that argument is getting harder and harder for neoliberals to make as the DNC continues trying to court the far-right on things like immigration, genocide and corporate welfare. They’ve done such an incompetent job of protecting our most basic freedoms from fascists that it makes it hard to claim they aren’t complicit.
What good is there to voting blue when they, in turn, actually do support fascism? which is exactly what they did here
Yes. By all means primary one of those democrats who voted for this out if you can, but if you got to the general election and the choice was between a pro Israel Republican and pro Israel Democrat, it would still be way better to pick the dem.
100% of house Republicans voted for this, while only 20% of house Democrats did. Right now the Republicans control what bills come to the floor for a vote since they have a majority. If Democrats had the majority and controlled the speakership, this bill never would have even come up for a vote in the first place since so few in their caucus support it overall. A pro Israel dem is not ideal, but at least helps ensure the 100% pro Israel (and a bajillion other reasons for being horrible besides this issue) Republicans don’t control the agenda for what bills come up in the house and senate.
By all means primary one of those democrats who voted for this out if you can
Big if, in some cases. My aye-affirming rep ran unopposed in this primary, and I can’t remember the last time there was a challenger. For my part I did a write in vote, but seeing as his big brother has a stranglehold on a LOT of business/politics/douchebaggery in the state, I don’t see this changing any time soon.
It makes more sense to resist oppressors at all costs.
Seems idiotic to pretend you are resisting when the cost is assisting the oppressors to gain more power.
I think you skipped US Government 101. In this country, if you’re not voting blue, you’re voting red.
I think you skipped reality 404. If you keep supporting right wing parties, you enable the right.
Let me tell you how absolutely “shocked” I am to see Wasserman Schultz on the list of dems that voted for this. /s
None of them from my state…cuz I live in mfing Utah and I’m sure the entire Congressional delegation would happily write messages on IGF bombs.
imagine sanctioning the ICC but not Netanyahu. Evil
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Imagine supporting terrorism against Palestinians. Evil
Supporting a racist apartheid regime commiting genocide is evil. Supporting an end to the apartheid and equal rights is not.
Netanyahu isnt Israel. At least put some effort into your bullshit propaganda.
When they over use sanctions they’ll become meaningless
This is how it looks like to be in the wrong side of history.
We are the Baddies
We’re learning in real time that the ICC and UN are great tools, until they disagree with you, at which point they can be ignored and even threatened.
Khan (ICC Chief Prosecutor) told CNN that an unnamed official had told him the ICC was “built for Africa and for thugs like Putin”.
Source (timestamped: 19:00) https://youtu.be/6BquEw4kNNE?si=xA2MKh03QAXkENvG&t=1140
Which shows that this “unnamed official” was dumb as fuck and didn’t do his homework.
What do you mean by “didn’t do his homework”? That “unnamed official” was clearly racist as fuck. Not sure about dumb, but definitely racist.
It’s good to see someone in such a high position standing for human values, even though the sanctions are likely going to fuck him.
The US has never cared about the ICJ and ICC and they refused to sign onto the treaty. Same as Russia, India, and China. The US doesn’t “use” the icc. They just recognize it exists and sometimes will comply to request of non-us citizens.
What exactly makes you think they were ever great tools?
Rules for thee, not for me.
Literally not the case here. The US has always said that they would refuse the ICC request for American Citizens and refuses to participate in the treaty of the Roman Statue. China, Russia, India, and several other counties have done the same
The Illegitimate Court Counteraction Act, led by Texas Republican Rep. Chip Roy, would require mandatory sanctions and visa restrictions on any foreign person working or providing funds for the ICC in prosecutions against the U.S., Israel or any other U.S. ally that is not party to the ICC.
Oh no, anything but that.
“you’ve seen our war crimes, now you’re no longer welcome here”
As if you’d go be a tourist in a country, just after you’ve seen solders of said country commit, or politicians and citizens actively defend war crimes. Plenty of pretty cool other things to see.
How does that work, exactly? Half the world countries are members of the ICC, and therefore, provide funding for it.
Way to take decisive action on important issues.
If only this convinced skeptics in the EU that we need to further integrate our Union and stand stronger against this bullshit from the USA
I guess I’m gonna have to start practicing a New Zealand accent so I can travel in peace. G’day, mate! Wait, no. That’s wrong.
Is there a Duolingo for picking up an accent? Or maybe I can do something else. How much Buckfast do I need to drink before I sound Scottish?
US citizens were pretending to be Canadians back in the day
Funny. As Canadians, we say we’re Americans when we do stupid shit abroad.
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Meamwhile ICC has arrest warrant for Putin. Those reps are honorable members of United Russia.
