• Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works
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              That’s literally what voting for the lesser of two evils does.

              If you want to start moving to the left, you need to vote for a left wing party.

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                Please name a left leaning party in the US that has a realistic chance of beating Trump and I’ll vote for them

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                If you say that as a US resident, you either don’t understand how our electoral system works, or you’re trying to push some fifth column bullshit.

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                  Your electoral system will not magically change and improve.

                  Please by all means keep doing the same thing you’ve always done, it’s not like America is one of the most right wing countries in the world and shifts further right each year regardless of who is in charge.

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          True but it is sad that the only left leaning party (that can get elected at least) still has members and a president ok with what they are seeing.

          For sure better than literal Nazis but we need to do better.

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          Maybe, but that argument is getting harder and harder for neoliberals to make as the DNC continues trying to court the far-right on things like immigration, genocide and corporate welfare. They’ve done such an incompetent job of protecting our most basic freedoms from fascists that it makes it hard to claim they aren’t complicit.

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          What good is there to voting blue when they, in turn, actually do support fascism? which is exactly what they did here

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        Yes. By all means primary one of those democrats who voted for this out if you can, but if you got to the general election and the choice was between a pro Israel Republican and pro Israel Democrat, it would still be way better to pick the dem.

        100% of house Republicans voted for this, while only 20% of house Democrats did. Right now the Republicans control what bills come to the floor for a vote since they have a majority. If Democrats had the majority and controlled the speakership, this bill never would have even come up for a vote in the first place since so few in their caucus support it overall. A pro Israel dem is not ideal, but at least helps ensure the 100% pro Israel (and a bajillion other reasons for being horrible besides this issue) Republicans don’t control the agenda for what bills come up in the house and senate.

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          By all means primary one of those democrats who voted for this out if you can

          Big if, in some cases. My aye-affirming rep ran unopposed in this primary, and I can’t remember the last time there was a challenger. For my part I did a write in vote, but seeing as his big brother has a stranglehold on a LOT of business/politics/douchebaggery in the state, I don’t see this changing any time soon.

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            Seems idiotic to pretend you are resisting when the cost is assisting the oppressors to gain more power.

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        I think you skipped US Government 101. In this country, if you’re not voting blue, you’re voting red.

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      Let me tell you how absolutely “shocked” I am to see Wasserman Schultz on the list of dems that voted for this. /s

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      None of them from my state…cuz I live in mfing Utah and I’m sure the entire Congressional delegation would happily write messages on IGF bombs.